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Are we sure the OP is not confusing PATRUL with PACHUNG? Drikungpas were well and active in the mid to late 1800's. highly likely. Pachung Rinpoche and Khyunga Rinpoche were very close. iirc Pachung Rinpoche didn't make it out of tibet. Khyunga Rinpoche was staying in a solo retreat in mountains at...

after chinese occupation there were very few drikung lineage holders left. Khyunga Rinpoche was pivotal for transmitting drikung lineage to the current Drikung Kyabgön Chetsang, Sonam Jorphel Rinpoche etc. who were all members of the group he trained in Ladakh during 3 year retreat. also Drubwang No...

Sādhaka wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 3:16 pm
It looks like with a Buddha called Generous Hand; as far as the ancient accounts of past Buddhas that we have access to goes: ...

thanks for the input, but i mean actual description of the practices of tregchö and thögal. they are in vima nyingthig, but anything prior to that?

anyone has any info on when did practices of thögal and tregchö first appear?

Kai lord wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2024 4:35 pm The best example of that would be the dissolution process at the end of deity yoga practice and the subsequent instantaneous re-arising as the deity in the natural state of inseparability of emptiness and appearance.

but how is it different from a regular (maha- ?) dissolution?

Kai lord wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2024 4:21 pm the whole point of doing deity yoga practices is to work with and cultivate subtle body and mind whether its the Anuyoga's dzogrim with or without characteristics.

what would be anuyoga's dzogrim without characteristics?

there is one problem with your question: what do you mean by "dzogchen?" "pure" dzogchen without deity yoga etc has been taught recently by ChNN only. most other dzogchen approaches in Nyingma are based on termas. and termas in most cases are mixed maha-, anu-, ati-yoga cycles. s...

as a side note i am curious why 2024 is Mingyur Rinpoche's obstacle year. i thought he was born in 1975 Mingyur Rinpoche is about to turn 48 in a few days....so it's his 4th 12 year cycle. btw it is still not clear to me. i thought an obstacle year is the same year sign one's born. meaning if Rinpo...

i sincerely rejoice in your practice. wish one day be as diligent as you ..I thought it would be difficult to get even the "lungs" for the translated commentaries on CN from Chökyi Nyima Rinpoche, never mind teaching on it. why is that? i thought Rinpoche was much easier accessible back th...

mutsuk, i am curious if you have any idea why Karma Ratna tregchö presentation is quite different from more “usual” Trekchö instructions? could it be that he wrote down the oral tradition of the lineage? it's interesting that he was disciple of Chokgyur Lingpa. supposedly he was taught to practice t...

I certainly don't see any "inconsistencies" between Chökyi Nyima Rinpoches teachings and Khenchen Namdrols Dzogchen teachings. So I am not sure what you mean. yes. this is what i meant by saying "that the instructions would be more or less uniform between teachers." To tell you ...

my goodness, mutsuk. you are invaluable 🤝 i wonder if these instructions is an oral tradition written down by Khenpo Karma Ratna? i don't have rigpe tsel wang and tregcho texts are restricted for me, so could you perhaps elaborate what is different in the Karma Ratna presentation and of what import ...

..its either rare teacher who will teach something in full, or sangha is tightly closed. We should try to get to inner circle of teachers we like and trust. I think its best chance. Or have many teachers. there is also the option of requesting a desired teaching and guidance from a teacher. teacher...

the teacher is much more important than the cycle. very true. my issue though is that it's easier for me to have confidence in the path when the cycle is complete. let's take your case for example: you received the empowerment from one Rinpoche, but are now receiving actual practice instructions fr...

W30345 which has supplemental material; and W23997 which is the root-terma). mutsuk, thank you again for your time and efforts to look into those texts. I guess Mingyur Dorje will certainly use sources from other cycles if he plans to teach Thögel at one point. i guess as much, but since there are ...

Everyone can take a look at this.https://hk.tergarasia.org/event/dorjedroloeng.pdf Looking at the Retreat Manual for Kamtsang DrupDra, written by Bokar Rinpoche, it looks like there are progressive stages going through the roots...not so much stand-alone sadhanas, but sections that are emphasized o...

thank you for looking into these texts, mutsuk. ...However, Atiyoga is not excessively present in the cyclethere are no outer or inner rushen, no training of the three doors, etc. ... ...references to Thögel for instance are extremely limited and the description of the practice is more than basic (n...

The rhetorical trick of saying “so you disagree with Big Name Teacher” is one we should only use very carefully. wasn't a trick, was just a straight up question. i didn't know you disagree with Big Name Teacher, but you did answer that in your own way, thanks. In this case, you didn’t know him, you...

Problem is: nobody can agree on what that even means... ...whenever people start talking about the need to "achieve shamatha", the whole discussion becomes impossibly confused. .. what Togden Shakya Shri said is not good enough for you? ...By constantly approaching meditation in this way,...

... from my imperfect understanding, is a pretty extensive and complete cycle--it is not merely a Sadhana for KyeRim of Drollo, but has extensive sections --and instructions--for progressively completing the recitations of "approach" for the various deities. The whole thing is also a body...