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by Caoimhghín
Mon Jan 25, 2021 6:21 pm
Forum: Sūtra Studies
Topic: Questions about "Early" as in early early.
Replies: 18
Views: 440

Re: Questions about "Early" as in early early.

Yes, just like the earlier Ven Candrakirti quotation.
by Caoimhghín
Mon Jan 25, 2021 6:15 pm
Forum: Sūtra Studies
Topic: Questions about "Early" as in early early.
Replies: 18
Views: 440

Re: Questions about "Early" as in early early.

Something that we don't often pay attention to is when one of the great Mahayanika masters quotes a sermon of the Buddha's from the dispensation to the sravaka, we often don't know the precise redaction of the sutras they were using and don't have those recensions anymore. When Ven Candrakirti says ...
by Caoimhghín
Mon Jan 25, 2021 5:57 pm
Forum: Sūtra Studies
Topic: Questions about "Early" as in early early.
Replies: 18
Views: 440

Re: Questions about "Early" as in early early.

How do Mahayana Buddhists handle claims that Pali Canon is the authentic teachings of the Buddha and anything beyond it is isn't Buddha's teachings? IMO, it's evident that if Mahayana comes from a specific community of practitioners who are all more or less in the same community and in the same pla...
by Caoimhghín
Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:15 am
Forum: Nichiren
Topic: Nagarjuna's tetralemma in contrast to Nichiren's interpretation of Tendai 3 Truths
Replies: 232
Views: 3369

Re: Nagarjuna's tetralemma in contrast to Nichiren's interpretation of Tendai 3 Truths

What I don't believe is that the dharmas are discreet atomic entities. They don't have particular moments of arising, abiding, and ceasing, that are discrete and autonomous, and I'm sure that we actually agree on this. This is not something I eccentrically believe myself, but is as I understand the...
by Caoimhghín
Thu Jan 21, 2021 4:14 am
Forum: Nichiren
Topic: Nagarjuna's tetralemma in contrast to Nichiren's interpretation of Tendai 3 Truths
Replies: 232
Views: 3369

Re: Nagarjuna's tetralemma in contrast to Nichiren's interpretation of Tendai 3 Truths

I get why you were asking your earlier question. I do think that the conventional exists conventionality. What I don't believe is that the dharmas are discreet atomic entities. They don't have particular moments of arising, abiding, and ceasing, that are discrete and autonomous, and I'm sure that we...
by Caoimhghín
Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:58 am
Forum: Nichiren
Topic: Nagarjuna's tetralemma in contrast to Nichiren's interpretation of Tendai 3 Truths
Replies: 232
Views: 3369

Re: Nagarjuna's tetralemma in contrast to Nichiren's interpretation of Tendai 3 Truths

If you don’t study and internalize these basic definitions, you’ll just engage in tons of proliferation as you have here. I'm explaining to you how Theravadins believe in the dhammas and how I don't believe in that. I don't think the Theravadins and the Sarvastivadins are exceptionally different in...
by Caoimhghín
Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:22 am
Forum: Nichiren
Topic: Nagarjuna's tetralemma in contrast to Nichiren's interpretation of Tendai 3 Truths
Replies: 232
Views: 3369

Re: Nagarjuna's tetralemma in contrast to Nichiren's interpretation of Tendai 3 Truths

How is space, absence of impediment, an experience of meditation? How is the cessation of the series of a burnt seed an experience of meditation? Granted, cessation due to analysis is a result of insight, but that refers to the cessation of births, so how are these three uncompounded dharmas not ev...
by Caoimhghín
Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:07 am
Forum: Nichiren
Topic: Nagarjuna's tetralemma in contrast to Nichiren's interpretation of Tendai 3 Truths
Replies: 232
Views: 3369

Re: Nagarjuna's tetralemma in contrast to Nichiren's interpretation of Tendai 3 Truths

I don't believe in Abhidharma, but I do agree that I need to study it more if I want to criticize it.
by Caoimhghín
Thu Jan 21, 2021 2:52 am
Forum: Nichiren
Topic: Nagarjuna's tetralemma in contrast to Nichiren's interpretation of Tendai 3 Truths
Replies: 232
Views: 3369

Re: Nagarjuna's tetralemma in contrast to Nichiren's interpretation of Tendai 3 Truths

I can see already how difficult this conversation would be to even have, so we probably shouldn't have it and won't. Maybe if we meet some day we'll have it, who knows. I too can concede that the dharmas in the matrices of the Abhidharmas "exist" in a way, but I don't give them any kind of actual on...
by Caoimhghín
Thu Jan 21, 2021 2:09 am
Forum: Nichiren
Topic: Nagarjuna's tetralemma in contrast to Nichiren's interpretation of Tendai 3 Truths
Replies: 232
Views: 3369

Re: Nagarjuna's tetralemma in contrast to Nichiren's interpretation of Tendai 3 Truths

Space, the two cessations, suchness/emptiness and all their synonyms are the uncompounded entities mentioned in Mahāyāna. So I read the sutra excerpts that you posted, and I am a bit confused as to why you brought up the emptiness of unconditioned things versus the emptiness of conditioned things i...
by Caoimhghín
Thu Jan 21, 2021 1:11 am
Forum: Media
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by Caoimhghín
Wed Jan 20, 2021 3:41 am
Forum: Nichiren
Topic: Nagarjuna's tetralemma in contrast to Nichiren's interpretation of Tendai 3 Truths
Replies: 232
Views: 3369

Re: Nagarjuna's tetralemma in contrast to Nichiren's interpretation of Tendai 3 Truths

I'm not disagreeing that emptiness is suchness and suchness is emptiness and these all refer to the same. I do want citations though, but not because I'm disputing it. I like reading. Ven Zhiyi himself says several times that suchness is emptiness, also that suchness is conventionality and that conv...
by Caoimhghín
Wed Jan 20, 2021 3:04 am
Forum: Nichiren
Topic: Nagarjuna's tetralemma in contrast to Nichiren's interpretation of Tendai 3 Truths
Replies: 232
Views: 3369

Re: Nagarjuna's tetralemma in contrast to Nichiren's interpretation of Tendai 3 Truths

middle=thusness; not just emptiness. emptiness is just another aspect of conventionality. middle in the sudden & perfect teaching is seeing both fully integrated. distinct teaching sees the three aspects of the perfect teaching distinctly. Perfect teaching is described in MMK 24:18 Suchness is also...
by Caoimhghín
Wed Jan 20, 2021 2:33 am
Forum: Nichiren
Topic: Nagarjuna's tetralemma in contrast to Nichiren's interpretation of Tendai 3 Truths
Replies: 232
Views: 3369

Re: Nagarjuna's tetralemma in contrast to Nichiren's interpretation of Tendai 3 Truths

Nirvāṇa as an object of meditative absorption, a dharma, is how the Theravādins believe nibbāna to be a particularized "object." It is in this sense that it appears in the matrices of the Ābhidharmikas. [...] Ven Vimalākṣa even says, "No one dharma known as the unconditioned is found." One of the t...
by Caoimhghín
Wed Jan 20, 2021 12:42 am
Forum: Nichiren
Topic: Nagarjuna's tetralemma in contrast to Nichiren's interpretation of Tendai 3 Truths
Replies: 232
Views: 3369

Re: Nagarjuna's tetralemma in contrast to Nichiren's interpretation of Tendai 3 Truths

Are you sure it's 24:18, or is it my mislabeled 25:18?

I knew messing up those citations would be no good lol
by Caoimhghín
Tue Jan 19, 2021 11:36 pm
Forum: Nichiren
Topic: Nagarjuna's tetralemma in contrast to Nichiren's interpretation of Tendai 3 Truths
Replies: 232
Views: 3369

Re: Nagarjuna's tetralemma in contrast to Nichiren's interpretation of Tendai 3 Truths

I mean absorption in the sense of a meditative absorption. One of the ways in which nirvāṇa is spoken of is as an absorption. Nirvāṇa as an object of meditative absorption, a dharma, is how the Theravādins believe nibbāna to be a particularized "object." It is in this sense that it appears in the ma...
by Caoimhghín
Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:39 pm
Forum: Nichiren
Topic: Nagarjuna's tetralemma in contrast to Nichiren's interpretation of Tendai 3 Truths
Replies: 232
Views: 3369

Re: Nagarjuna's tetralemma in contrast to Nichiren's interpretation of Tendai 3 Truths

In order to enter into emptiness, you must contemplate conventional existence; emptiness is realized through this encounter. This realization is as when the clouds are scattered and vanquished, and above is made manifest and below is clear [...] The conventional is that which is to be destroyed; th...
by Caoimhghín
Tue Jan 19, 2021 7:14 pm
Forum: Nichiren
Topic: Nagarjuna's tetralemma in contrast to Nichiren's interpretation of Tendai 3 Truths
Replies: 232
Views: 3369

Re: Nagarjuna's tetralemma in contrast to Nichiren's interpretation of Tendai 3 Truths

Yes... the story about the fellow is that he retired to a mountain referred to as Nanyue. https://goo.gl/maps/yLfdqMry9cDqfNP66 From the wikipedia article on "Nanyue Huisi," it looks like he spent his most prolific years teaching in Guangzhou, the capital of Guangdong, part of the "Southern Yue" th...
by Caoimhghín
Tue Jan 19, 2021 5:36 pm
Forum: Nichiren
Topic: Nagarjuna's tetralemma in contrast to Nichiren's interpretation of Tendai 3 Truths
Replies: 232
Views: 3369

Re: Nagarjuna's tetralemma in contrast to Nichiren's interpretation of Tendai 3 Truths

This is going to be overlong, sorry. (T1564.35c27) First I mistake chapter 25 for 24, then I don't paste half of the section I wanted to paste. I'm not Interneting very well today. The full section should be: Between nirvāṇa and the world, there is not the slightest differentiation. Between the worl...

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