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by Schrödinger’s Yidam
Wed Apr 21, 2021 12:08 pm
Forum: East Asian Buddhism
Topic: The relationship between going for refuge and the five vows
Replies: 16
Views: 269

Re: The relationship between going for refuge and the five vows

I practice in a Tibetan tradition. The vows are optional. However to my great surprise, I’ve been told that in Theravada you automatically take the vows when you take Refuge.

So different traditions have different answers.
by Schrödinger’s Yidam
Wed Apr 21, 2021 1:34 am
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: What happens in those 3 year retreats?
Replies: 21
Views: 1108

Re: What happens in those 3 year retreats?

Bristollad wrote: Wed Apr 21, 2021 12:52 am
florin wrote: Tue Apr 20, 2021 10:53 pm Time spent in retreat does not guarantee that one will obtain the knowledge and qualities a lama must have.
Indeed, I’ve met one former 3 year retreat veteran who afterwards committed armed bank robbery. :guns:
That's pretty extreme.
by Schrödinger’s Yidam
Mon Apr 19, 2021 11:37 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: What happens in those 3 year retreats?
Replies: 21
Views: 1108

Re: What happens in those 3 year retreats?

A lama does not have to be a monastic. And a monk is not necessarily a lama. A monk is a male that has taken a specific set of vows. All that is required is that he requests the vows, and that a small assembly of monks that already hold those vows to give them to him. Roughly speaking, a lama is so...
by Schrödinger’s Yidam
Sun Apr 18, 2021 8:52 pm
Forum: Lounge
Topic: Why can't Buddha liberate beings?
Replies: 10
Views: 368

Re: Why can't Buddha liberate beings?

A friend said the teaching the video describes is on "Habitual Tendencies".
by Schrödinger’s Yidam
Sun Apr 18, 2021 7:07 am
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: Can all people in our world come to enlightenment?
Replies: 68
Views: 1352

Re: Can all people in our world come to enlightenment?

All beings suffer. They don't want to suffer, and will take action to stop it. Over a period of unimaginable lifetimes, ultimately that will bring them to Dharma (of some kind) and liberation.
by Schrödinger’s Yidam
Sat Apr 17, 2021 9:44 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: What happens in those 3 year retreats?
Replies: 21
Views: 1108

Re: What happens in those 3 year retreats?

In group retreats interpersonal irritation and conflict are common. In theory it's part of the process. It allows you to see your own negativities in action. In fact, the retreat master here refuses to green light solo retreats because without irritating people in close proximity a person can (false...
by Schrödinger’s Yidam
Sat Apr 17, 2021 9:19 pm
Forum: Kagyu
Topic: Video on Gompopa and Buddha Nature.
Replies: 17
Views: 693

Re: Video on Gompopa and Buddha Nature.

I think this is generally considered the origin of the name 'Karmapa' and not the teachings of Maitreya.
Maybe so, but my idea is so much more fun!
by Schrödinger’s Yidam
Sat Apr 17, 2021 1:53 am
Forum: Kagyu
Topic: Video on Gompopa and Buddha Nature.
Replies: 17
Views: 693

Re: Video on Gompopa and Buddha Nature.

Rangjung Droje would not have called himself a Shentongpa, I don't think. You know Dolpopa was his student, but I don't think Rangjung Dorje would have agreed with all of Dolpopa's positions. Clearly, though, the idea of Buddha Nature is central to Gampopa, it is the first chapter of the TharGyen, ...
by Schrödinger’s Yidam
Fri Apr 16, 2021 1:45 am
Forum: Kagyu
Topic: Video on Gompopa and Buddha Nature.
Replies: 17
Views: 693

Video on Gompopa and Buddha Nature.

The Karma Kagyu school more or less embraced the Shentong view at the time of Karmapa III, Rangjung Dorje. However the teachings on Buddha Nature were present long before that in the Kagyu school. In fact the lecturer mentions that Marpa received the teachings of Maitreya from Maitripa. I hadn’t hea...
by Schrödinger’s Yidam
Sat Apr 10, 2021 1:57 pm
Forum: Kagyu
Topic: Brunnhölzl on Buddha Nature as a radical teaching.
Replies: 98
Views: 2741

Re: Brunnhölzl on Buddha Nature as a radical teaching.

You two guys deserve your own forum.
by Schrödinger’s Yidam
Thu Apr 08, 2021 7:27 pm
Forum: Kagyu
Topic: Brunnhölzl on Buddha Nature as a radical teaching.
Replies: 98
Views: 2741

Re: Brunnhölzl on Buddha Nature as a radical teaching.

As you say, I also find this quote conceptually inconsistent with general buddhist teachings (that ignorant westerners such as myself have been exposed to), but now I put this down to my concepts and lack of experience. Yes, it is conceptually inconsistent with general buddhist teachings, if by "ge...
by Schrödinger’s Yidam
Thu Apr 08, 2021 6:13 pm
Forum: Kagyu
Topic: Brunnhölzl on Buddha Nature as a radical teaching.
Replies: 98
Views: 2741

Re: Brunnhölzl on Buddha Nature as a radical teaching.

As you say, I also find this quote conceptually inconsistent with general buddhist teachings (that ignorant westerners such as myself have been exposed to), but now I put this down to my concepts and lack of experience. Yes, it is conceptually inconsistent with general buddhist teachings, if by "ge...
by Schrödinger’s Yidam
Thu Apr 08, 2021 6:03 am
Forum: Kagyu
Topic: Brunnhölzl on Buddha Nature as a radical teaching.
Replies: 98
Views: 2741

Re: Brunnhölzl on Buddha Nature as a radical teaching.

On the buddhanature.tsadra.org website Brunnhölzl has an interview that is broken up into 13 separate videos.
The first one in this thread was #2.
This video is #7.

by Schrödinger’s Yidam
Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:06 pm
Forum: Kagyu
Topic: Brunnhölzl on Buddha Nature as a radical teaching.
Replies: 98
Views: 2741

Re: Brunnhölzl on Buddha Nature as a radical teaching.

The way I see it, the fundamental question becomes: Is Buddha Nature inherently real? Hindus say atman is inherently real. I think even most shentongpas would say it's not real, it's emptiness. Nope. Khenpo Tsultrim "Progressive Stages on Meditation on Emptiness" Kindle edition, so no page number T...
by Schrödinger’s Yidam
Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:37 pm
Forum: Kagyu
Topic: Brunnhölzl on Buddha Nature as a radical teaching.
Replies: 98
Views: 2741

Re: Brunnhölzl on Buddha Nature as a radical teaching.


In other words, it's beyond discursive thought for mere fools like ourselves.
Correct. But then again something might just be the exactly right thing for someone to hear at a given time, discursive though it may be.
by Schrödinger’s Yidam
Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:32 pm
Forum: Kagyu
Topic: Brunnhölzl on Buddha Nature as a radical teaching.
Replies: 98
Views: 2741

Re: Brunnhölzl on Buddha Nature as a radical teaching.

sentient beings do not partake of Buddha Nature. If this is the case, and I doubt it, this would mean that this idea stands in direct contradiction with the main systematized source of the tathāgatgarbha theory, the Uttaratantra. Yes. Exactly. Brunnhölzl mentions it in the video. It’s completely ou...
by Schrödinger’s Yidam
Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:01 am
Forum: Kagyu
Topic: Brunnhölzl on Buddha Nature as a radical teaching.
Replies: 98
Views: 2741

Re: Brunnhölzl on Buddha Nature as a radical teaching.

Mahayana accepts that there is an 8th consciousness, called the storehouse consciousness, that goes from lifetime to lifetime. Really? Where is it going to go? More accurate to say that what it stores in this lifetime produces what arises in the next lifetime. No atma is needed there. Hey, I don't ...
by Schrödinger’s Yidam
Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:57 am
Forum: Kagyu
Topic: Brunnhölzl on Buddha Nature as a radical teaching.
Replies: 98
Views: 2741

Re: Brunnhölzl on Buddha Nature as a radical teaching.

Also I am interested in how it was said that Buddha Nature is separate from who we are, it goes beyond the illusion of self. What aspect of us interacts with it and how? Since I've read a bit of Brunnhölzl's book on Shentong I think I've got a handle on this. I believe he is referring to an outlier...
by Schrödinger’s Yidam
Wed Apr 07, 2021 3:43 am
Forum: Kagyu
Topic: Brunnhölzl on Buddha Nature as a radical teaching.
Replies: 98
Views: 2741

Re: Brunnhölzl on Buddha Nature as a radical teaching.

Can anyone go into detail here how Buddha-Nature is not an Atman? That is the $64,000 dollar question. Personally I think it comes down to semantics. Atman is not changeable. Buddha Nature is limitless. If there were something unchangeable about Buddha Nature that would limit how it can be expresse...

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