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SN 22.57: Sattatthana Sutta — Seven Bases

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Re: SN 22.57: Sattatthana Sutta — Seven Bases

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Re: SN 22.57: Sattatthana Sutta — Seven Bases

Postby rowyourboat » Wed Nov 17, 2010 7:30 pm

:rofl:

1) the stuff
2) origin of the stuff
3) the cessation of the stuff
4) how on earth you got there

5) why stuff is great
6) whats not so good about it
7) the escape from stuff

Do I get full marks? (apart from acuracy of terminology :tongue: )

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Re: SN 22.57: Sattatthana Sutta — Seven Bases

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Re: SN 22.57: Sattatthana Sutta — Seven Bases

Postby rowyourboat » Wed Nov 17, 2010 7:58 pm

Excellent Mike,

Now how do we get to know Stuff?

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Re: SN 22.57: Sattatthana Sutta — Seven Bases

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Re: SN 22.57: Sattatthana Sutta — Seven Bases

Postby Individual » Wed Nov 17, 2010 8:36 pm

The best things in life aren't things.


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Re: SN 22.57: Sattatthana Sutta — Seven Bases

Postby rowyourboat » Thu Nov 18, 2010 6:03 pm

You might be on to something there Mike- how can we see the allure, drawback and escape of something then?

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Re: SN 22.57: Sattatthana Sutta — Seven Bases

Postby Individual » Thu Nov 18, 2010 7:42 pm

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Re: SN 22.57: Sattatthana Sutta — Seven Bases

Postby mikenz66 » Fri Nov 19, 2010 6:54 am

OK, here are some comments from Bhikkhu Bodhi (BB) and Commentary (Spk).

BB: The seven cases (sattatthana) are obtained by merging the tetrad of the preceding sutta with the triad of SN 22:26.
[As we have already discussed above.]

Spk: This sutta is a statement of both congratulations (ussada-nandiya) and enticement (palobhianiya). For just as a king who has won a battle rewards and honours his victorious warriors in order to inspire the other soldiers to become heroes, so the Blessed One extols and praises the arahants in order to inspire the others to attain the fruit of arahantship.

BB: A triple investigator (tividhupaparikkhi). This may be understood by way of the Dhatusamyutta(SN 14, Elements ), the Salayatanasamyutta (SN 36, The six senses ), and tha Nidanasamyutta (SN 12, Paticcasamuppada (dependent co-arising) ). See too MN 115 , where skill in the elements, sense bases and dependent origination is explained in detail, augmented by the skill of knowing the possible and the impossible.

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Re: SN 22.57: Sattatthana Sutta — Seven Bases

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Re: SN 22.57: Sattatthana Sutta — Seven Bases

Postby rowyourboat » Tue Nov 23, 2010 11:19 am

Hi Mike

Skanda, datu, ayatana is one approach to understanding the first insight knowledge of nama-rupa paricceda nana. ie- it will make you clearly understand how the 'world' can be categorized. But to understand it at depth we need to take a few steps further- ie we need to see the arising and passing away of these categories- then we will begin to see the 'aadinava'- the drawbacks in terms of anicca, dukka and anatta (also in terms of bhanga, bhaya and ..aadinava nana).

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