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7 Ideas about the Dzogchen Nature

Postby kalden yungdrung » Fri May 27, 2011 1:49 am

Tashi delek, :)

There can be some misunderstandings about what Dzogchen could be.
H.E. Lopon Tenzin Namdak Rinpoche elucidates below these misunderstandings which are all based on thoughts.
Thoughts seem to be karmic based and stored in the Alaya.

Best wishes
KY



7 IDEAS ABOUT THE DZOGCHEN NATURE:

Going back to the Nature itself now: I said before that some just look back to the thought, and when it disappears, they are satisfied and believe this is the Nature of Dzogchen. But it is not so easy to realise this Nature. In our text we find seven possible ideas about the Dzogchen Nature.

Like if seven different persons were looking at Dzogchen and came to seven different opinions about it. What we have to do is to think about and clearly understand this Nature, which is beyond consciousness and without any connection with it. This is the one and most important point.

Now all the many explanations of the Dzogchen view and the many ways how it can be misunderstood and how some pretend to know the Dzogchen view are condensed to 7 points here:

1. They think that the Dzogchen Nature is completely perfect, so perfection is the base of all.
2. They think that Dzogchen is not definite, so anything can be said to be Dzogchen. As the Dzogchen Nature is beyond consciousness, one can say anything about Dzogchen, as there is no certain Dzogchen view recognizable.
3. They think that the Dzogchen view is the base of all. They only think so - so thinking has been added.
4. They think that anything can be made into Dzogchen, good things, bad things, neutral things. One changes things to be Dzogchen.
5. They think that anything can be accepted, as the Dzogchen view is not certain and definite.
6. They think that any vision and anything the existence of which we are not certain about can be accepted as Dzogchen, as this basic Nature is the base of all.
7. They think that Dzogchen cannot be explained in any way, as there is only purity itself, kadag.

These are all ideas on Dzogchen. All these ideas are made by consciousness and thinking.
THOUGH A MAN BE LEARNED
IF HE DOES NOT APPLY HIS KNOWLEDGE
HE RESEMBLES THE BLIND MAN
WHO WITH A LAMP IN THE HAND CANNOT SEE THE ROAD
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Re: 7 Ideas about the Dzogchen Nature

Postby Andrew108 » Tue May 01, 2012 8:04 pm

This is really really good. I hope to get to France this summer.
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Re: 7 Ideas about the Dzogchen Nature

Postby kalden yungdrung » Thu May 03, 2012 6:02 pm

Andrew108 wrote:This is really really good. I hope to get to France this summer.


Tashi delek,

Here some usefull link:
http://shenten.org/index.php

Parlez vous francais? :D

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KY
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HE RESEMBLES THE BLIND MAN
WHO WITH A LAMP IN THE HAND CANNOT SEE THE ROAD
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