4) KRUGMAN: Austerity is a recipe for depression. "For the past two years, the Greek story has, as one recent paper on economic policy put it, been 'interpreted as a parable of the risks of fiscal profligacy.' Not a day goes by without some politician or pundit intoning, with the air of a man conveying great wisdom, that we must slash government spending right away or find ourselves turning into Greece, Greece I tell you...But what Greek experience actually shows is that while running deficits in good times can get you in trouble — which is indeed the story for Greece, although not for Spain — trying to eliminate deficits once you’re already in trouble is a recipe for depression...So it is time to stop invoking Greece as a cautionary tale about the dangers of deficits; from an American point of view, Greece should instead be seen as a cautionary tale about the dangers of trying to reduce deficits too quickly, while the economy is still deeply depressed." Paul Krugman in The New York Times.
Greek Police Force for Rent. Greek private citizens will be able to rent police services ranging from police officers to police helicopters.
Police duties have acquired commercial value. From today forth whomsoever has money to spare will be able to police services ranging from police officers to police helicopters. See for yourselves… the price list.
From http://news247.gr/ (Greek language electronic newspaper) Sunday April 08 2012 10:06am
Via the unprecedented ministerial decision by the ministers F. Sahinidi and M Othona, the Greek police force has posted a “for rent” sign.
It was revealed in the Greek weekly newspaper "Proto Thema" that at the very moment that criminality in Greece has spiked so high that citizens no longer feel safe even in the confines of their own homes, Greek police force services can now officially be rented by those having the capacity to pay.
What exactly does this mean? That those that have the economic means, can now pay to feel safe. This decision also means that the services and personnel that are being rented will be drawn from the pool of police officers that should be offering their services to the rest of the general public.
And as if all this sounds absurd, wait until you read the price catalogue that was published in the Government Bills Publication.
According to the publication an individual can rent anything from a normal police officer for 30 euro an hour to a police helicopter for 1,500 euro an hour.
And, according to the Government Bills Publication, if you are a “valued customer” the Greek police force can even offer you a discount on the price of the services. The Bill allows a 15% discount for services rendered to individual legal entities concerned with public law (public servants, government officials, etc…) and for institutions linked to the broader public sector (e.g. telephone company and railroads employees)
For a mere 20 euro per hour extra (i.e. 50 euro per hour total) one has the option to choose a motorcycle officer or a police officer accompanied by a trained police dog!
And for those who wish to have even more options, and have money to spare, well they can rent a police car, a police bus or even a police speedboat.
In addition to this the Greek police force, given payment of the amount referred to in the price catalogue, can even be made available for cinematic filming sessions and even private social events (weddings, baptisms, etc…)!
For readers information the Bill, with the joint decision by the two ministers F Sahinidi and M Othona, was published last Monday in the Government Bills Publication under the title: “The rendering of services towards third parties by the Greek police force in exchange for payment”. This Bill outlines how police duties will acquire commercial value.
gregkavarnos wrote:Needless to say that many of the ministers of the current government are Chicago school graduates.
No, not really. A number of communities have reacted (in some cases open revolt that required police special forces to do door to door arrests and bring in special equipment) against specific decisions that effect their local communties.kirtu wrote:Are there any Aegean Island or mountain communities that are in effect creating a new Greece (without the civil war aspects)?
gregkavarnos wrote:kirtu wrote:Are there any Aegean Island or mountain communities that are in effect creating a new Greece (without the civil war aspects)?
Zoniana in the mountains of the island of Crete is another example. They have illegal marijuana crops growing all over remote mountain districts. When the cops went in the locals opened fire necessitating a withdrawal by police forces until special forces units could reinforce them.
Crete has a "tradition" of gun ownership and use and a long history of vendettas. It is probably the least peaceful place in Greece. It is common practice at Cretan festivals to pull out pistols and other firearms and shoot them off into the air. I guess they never learned how to use fireworks. Shootings, accidental and purposeful, are quite common in Crete.kirtu wrote:And here I thought Crete was a nice, peaceful place.
No such thing yet. Greeks are VERY individualisticly minded. An exception to this mindset is the island of Ikaria. It was used during the junta as a place of exile for left wing intellectuals so...What about community based solar/wind energy and the communal development of local industry such as software, international tutoring, tourism, etc? If governments render themselves irrelevant then the people need to create their own peaceful solutions.
Heroin dealer. Greece is the crossroad for heroin trade from Afghanistan via Turkey. Spain is where all the cocaine comes in from. Actually that is an interesting question. A question that was raised by some of the people commenting on the original article. I will look up the Bill and come back with the info.catmoon wrote:Ok, so now the local coke dealer can hire a cop?
The new generation of the Greek democratic royal family heirs were trained at the Chicago school and have allegiances to international capital, regardless of its origin.Thrasymachus wrote:...flipped from being American clients to European ones and changed their tact accordingly after their return.
Golden Dawn (Hrisi Avgi) are neo-Nazi scum. Their media representative is involved (documented) in a chain of hotel/brothels. Pimps and gangsters. They pulled 6.5% of the national vote and thus a number of seats in parliament due to two factors: 1. reactive anger against the major parties as a consequence of their ineptitude, 2. an avalanche of media support that painted them as laddish patriots that help frail old ladies cross the road, instead of the murderous hate filled thugs that they are.Konchog1 wrote:"Blood and honor, golden dawn!"
gregkavarnos wrote:Capitalism has fragmented us and made us lose our sense of collective identity. We cannot envisage something better for all of us, an ideal worth sacrificing ourselves for.