How are teachers like Mangos?

Mr. G
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Re: How are teachers like Mangos?

Postby Mr. G » Sat Apr 21, 2012 5:37 pm

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Re: How are teachers like Mangos?

Postby Blue Garuda » Sat Apr 21, 2012 6:04 pm

I recently received an empowerment from Dzogchen Rinpoche who seemed 'ripe' enough and the empowerment has been of great help to me.

As head of Dzogchen Monastery and 7th Dzogchen Rinpoche, I note here that he seems to have a connection to Taklung Tsetrul Rinpoche, which is surely then a good thing :

http://news.palyul.org/2012/03/24/new-s ... -rinpoche/
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Re: How are teachers like Mangos?

Postby Josef » Sat Apr 21, 2012 6:09 pm

Blue Garuda wrote:I recently received an empowerment from Dzogchen Rinpoche who seemed 'ripe' enough and the empowerment has been of great help to me.

As head of Dzogchen Monastery and 7th Dzogchen Rinpoche, I note here that he seems to have a connection to Taklung Tsetrul Rinpoche, which is surely then a good thing :

http://news.palyul.org/2012/03/24/new-s ... -rinpoche/

Good for you BG.
I havent had the chance to meet him yet but in my opinion this is a pretty good way to go in terms of finding a teacher one can be confident in.

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Re: How are teachers like Mangos?

Postby ngodrup » Sat Apr 21, 2012 7:06 pm

Since Dzogchen Rinpoche is Sogyal Rinpoche's brother,
I would bet he has excellent English. Is that a good guess?

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Re: How are teachers like Mangos?

Postby Blue Garuda » Sat Apr 21, 2012 7:38 pm

ngodrup wrote:Since Dzogchen Rinpoche is Sogyal Rinpoche's brother,
I would bet he has excellent English. Is that a good guess?



His English is excellent, and he has a warm and approachable manner. I was one of about 50 at the empowerment, so it was an intimate affair.

I went to him for a specific empowerment another Nyingma Lama had advised me to seek out to remove certain obstructions.

As Namdrol said, we need to assess a Guru for ourselves, and I believe positive karma ripened for me when I was led to Dzogchen Rinpoche. :)
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Re: How are teachers like Mangos?

Postby udawa » Sat Apr 21, 2012 7:48 pm

The best in my experience are honey mangoes from Pakistan. They come shipped in really crappy cardboard boxes and often look a bit worse for wear on the outside. Nonetheless, they are delicious. Other kinds look much more promising, but turn out to be a bit insipid, or tasteless.

Not sure what this adds to this particular discussion though.

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Re: How are teachers like Mangos?

Postby Blue Garuda » Sat Apr 21, 2012 7:55 pm

Some gurus are like Durian Fruit .

It tastes sweet and delicious, until you notice later that something smells rotten, including yourself.
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Re: How are teachers like Mangos?

Postby David N. Snyder » Sat Apr 21, 2012 8:51 pm

Sönam wrote:I like the term Ripe ... because after a while it becomes Rotten


Good one. Here's another:

Teachers are like mangoes, because if you dig deep enough, all you find is the pit.


(edit: just to clarify in case anyone doesn't get it; this is just a joke, nothing serious here, of course there are plenty of good teachers.)

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Re: How are teachers like Mangos?

Postby Sönam » Sat Apr 21, 2012 9:20 pm

David N. Snyder wrote:
Teachers are like mangoes, because if you dig deep enough, all you find is the pit.


(edit: just to clarify in case anyone doesn't get it; this is just a joke, nothing serious here, of course there are plenty of good teachers.)


you mean the pith I presume ...

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By understanding that any and all mental activity is meditation, you are freed from arbitrary divisions between formal sessions and postmeditation activity.
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Re: How are teachers like Mangos?

Postby David N. Snyder » Sat Apr 21, 2012 9:29 pm

In slang usage, the seed in the middle; also for something unpleasant, inedible, no good, etc.

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Re: How are teachers like Mangos?

Postby Stewart » Sat Apr 21, 2012 9:32 pm

That's great BG, glad you've made a meaningful connection with Dzogchen Rinpoche.
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Re: How are teachers like Mangos?

Postby Sönam » Sat Apr 21, 2012 9:38 pm

David N. Snyder wrote:In slang usage, the seed in the middle; also for something unpleasant, inedible, no good, etc.


I had a look in the dictionary ... It was just a line thrown :juggling:

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By understanding that any and all mental activity is meditation, you are freed from arbitrary divisions between formal sessions and postmeditation activity.
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Re: How are teachers like Mangos?

Postby blackpath » Sat Apr 21, 2012 10:17 pm

As the 7th Mangoling Rinpoche once wrote in the Elucidation of the Distant Mango Lassi Lamp, "The teacher who is like a ripe mango is awesome with awesome sauce".

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Re: How are teachers like Mangos?

Postby kirtu » Sun Apr 22, 2012 4:34 am

Namdrol wrote:Dzogchen should be learned from a ripe master. There are very few of those -- meet them while you still have a chance. I just mentioned two.


Yes you are right, Dzogchen must be learned from a ripe master. I wasn't paying attention to the context, sorry.

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Re: How are teachers like Mangos?

Postby catmoon » Sun Apr 22, 2012 7:25 am

Ten years later a student poring over dusty manuscripts in a temple basement in Tibet discovers where everyone in the West went wrong. It turns out the passage doesn't say "ripe master" it says "rime master". :rolling:
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Re: How are teachers like Mangos?

Postby muni » Sun Apr 22, 2012 3:17 pm

It is all OWN MIND How they appaer is how "own mind" react on "them", that reaction gets qualification.

A Dzogchen master qualifies a students' mind, whether ripen or not...no, now that mind whether ripen or not, qualifies the Dzogchen masters.

Those who see my body as ordinary form
and hear my voice as ordinary sound
Have set out upon a mistaken path.
Such people do not truly see me.
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Re: How are teachers like Mangos?

Postby Dechen Norbu » Sun Apr 22, 2012 3:18 pm

You lost me there, muni... :lol:

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Re: How are teachers like Mangos?

Postby Stewart » Sun Apr 22, 2012 3:33 pm

....and me.
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Re: How are teachers like Mangos?

Postby muni » Sun Apr 22, 2012 4:22 pm

What i say is simple, not the Dharmakaya sees the ripen students, in modern days the students sees the ripen master.
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Re: How are teachers like Mangos?

Postby Dechen Norbu » Sun Apr 22, 2012 4:25 pm

Care to elaborate? :smile:


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