Should I buy a copy of the Majjhima Nikaya?

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Re: Should I buy a copy of the Majjhima Nikaya?

Postby Ben » Tue Oct 19, 2010 5:44 am

“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

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in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
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Re: Should I buy a copy of the Majjhima Nikaya?

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Re: Should I buy a copy of the Majjhima Nikaya?

Postby IanAnd » Wed Oct 20, 2010 1:58 am

"The gift of truth exceeds all other gifts" — Dhammapada, v. 354 Craving XXIV

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Re: Should I buy a copy of the Majjhima Nikaya?

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Re: Should I buy a copy of the Majjhima Nikaya?

Postby Sylvester » Wed Oct 20, 2010 3:47 am

I best not say any more about the good news, lest I jinx the whole happy prospect.

Suffice it to say, it pertains not to BB's AN.

Signing out for the next 2 weeks to Jhana Grove.

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Re: Should I buy a copy of the Majjhima Nikaya?

Postby IanAnd » Wed Oct 20, 2010 7:15 am

"The gift of truth exceeds all other gifts" — Dhammapada, v. 354 Craving XXIV

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Re: Should I buy a copy of the Majjhima Nikaya?

Postby mettafuture » Thu Oct 21, 2010 9:55 pm

Beautifully explained, IanAnd. Thank you for sharing a part of your journey with us. And thank you for inspiring me to give the Anguttara Nikaya a closer look. :)

Regarding my purchase of the Majjhima Nikaya, I think I'm going to wait. I've already studied a lot of dhamma, and I think it's about time I focus more on practice. I'll likely order by Stephen Snyder first, order the Anguttara Nikaya when ever it's released, and then order the Majjhima Nikaya shortly thereafter.

Thank you all again for your replies.

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Re: Should I buy a copy of the Majjhima Nikaya?

Postby BlackBird » Thu Oct 21, 2010 11:25 pm

I haven't read the thread, mettafuture. But I think you'll get much more bang for your buck if you order the Majjhima instead of Jhana advice from Mr. Snyder. In truth there's no magic bullet to Samadhi. You watch the breath, you lose focus, you bring attention back to the breath, rinse and repeat until it sticks for a while and voila. These kind of books like to talk about the immense pleasure of Jhana and what not, but in actual fact when you start reading that kind of thing you're most likely going to be motivated by sensual desire, which is of course one of the things preventing you from 'getting it' in the first place.

I had a book by Shaila Catherine a while back, and while it was an encouraging read, as far as getting motivated for meditation practice, it didn't really tell me anything I didn't already know.

The Majjhima on the other hand, if read thoroughly, will give you a lot of knowledge about what is and is not the Buddha's message. You start applying the message to your day to day life and it's a real joy when a verse from a sutta pops into your head and you suddenly understand it on deeper level. That's priceless stuff.

Just my take
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Re: Should I buy a copy of the Majjhima Nikaya?

Postby retrofuturist » Fri Oct 22, 2010 12:22 am

"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

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Re: Should I buy a copy of the Majjhima Nikaya?

Postby Vepacitta » Fri Oct 22, 2010 12:59 am

Sometimes 'extra curricular' writings are helpful when learning about jhanas - then they should be compared to the suttas. They are an aid (to me).

I can't speak to Stephen Snyder. I do know that Nana posted some excellent on-line resources about jhana meditation - look in the suttanta meditation thread - helpful articles by Aj. Thanissaro and others.

For sutta study, as I already mentioned - something about the Samyutta Nikaya 'clicks' for me.

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Re: Should I buy a copy of the Majjhima Nikaya?

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Re: Should I buy a copy of the Majjhima Nikaya?

Postby alan » Fri Oct 22, 2010 4:39 am

Thanissaro's books are free, and delightful.
Why wade through thousands of pages when you can get his edit?

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Re: Should I buy a copy of the Majjhima Nikaya?

Postby retrofuturist » Fri Oct 22, 2010 4:46 am

"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" - Thomas Paine

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Re: Should I buy a copy of the Majjhima Nikaya?

Postby alan » Fri Oct 22, 2010 5:10 am

How alternative can they possibly be?

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Re: Should I buy a copy of the Majjhima Nikaya?

Postby alan » Fri Oct 22, 2010 5:16 am

It's not like we are dealing with completely different takes on a big idea--I'm all for getting differing opinions. But translations need not vary in such a way.
So I'll ask again--why wade through thousands of pages, when you can get a good version, free?

I'm completely satisfied that Thanissaro is far more aware than me, or anyone else I've ever encountered.

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Re: Should I buy a copy of the Majjhima Nikaya?

Postby alan » Fri Oct 22, 2010 5:27 am

So I'll continue to cherish my well worn books. Which were free.

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Re: Should I buy a copy of the Majjhima Nikaya?

Postby retrofuturist » Fri Oct 22, 2010 9:35 am

"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" - Thomas Paine

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Re: Should I buy a copy of the Majjhima Nikaya?

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Re: Should I buy a copy of the Majjhima Nikaya?

Postby mettafuture » Fri Oct 22, 2010 7:16 pm

I recently discovered an entire section in the Samyutta Nikaya dedicated to the elements (I think). It's listed as XIV Dhatu Samyutta. Would anyone happen to know anything about this section?

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