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Afghanistan debate in Australia's Parliament

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Afghanistan debate in Australia's Parliament

Postby Ben » Wed Oct 20, 2010 6:00 am

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Re: Afghanistan debate in Australia's Parliament

Postby tiltbillings » Wed Oct 20, 2010 6:06 am

Sometimes this come to mind:


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Re: Afghanistan debate in Australia's Parliament

Postby BlackBird » Wed Oct 20, 2010 6:58 am

Karzai is just another in a long string of corrupt dictators the United States plonks on the throne when they invade a country. Afganistan: Vietnam the sequel. Going into the middle east to secure a bit of oil was like trying to plug up an arterial bleed with a band aid.

Speaking on the law itself, it is probably a politically savvy move for Karzai's regime. The regime there may very well be seeking to align itself more with the Ultra-conservative Islamists which - Let's face it - Hold a lot of sway in the country.
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Re: Afghanistan debate in Australia's Parliament

Postby Ben » Wed Oct 20, 2010 9:47 am

“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: Afghanistan debate in Australia's Parliament

Postby Individual » Wed Oct 20, 2010 6:03 pm

I feel like the U.S. was justified in invading Afghanistan -- which doesn't have any significant oil, by the way -- because they were harboring Bin Laden, refused to give him up, and were a major base for terrorism. We destroyed their bases and made them flee.

However, we certainly failed in foreign policy. Soldiers in Afghanistan no longer serve any purpose other than to simply legitimize the Karzai regime and Bin Laden moved to Pakistan. Much of American violence only acts as a rallying cry for radical Muslims.

It doesn't seem like an easy solution is in sight, because neither good diplomacy nor war would address the problem.
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Re: Afghanistan debate in Australia's Parliament

Postby cooran » Wed Oct 20, 2010 8:37 pm

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Re: Afghanistan debate in Australia's Parliament

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The best things in life aren't things.


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Re: Afghanistan debate in Australia's Parliament

Postby BlackBird » Thu Oct 21, 2010 1:15 am

I don't think the Bush administration we're so concerned about where the oil went Individual, just that the supplies were secure. Global oil demand isn't flexible at all, and it's fears of supply crunch and the huge impacts that would have on Wall Street and global financial institutions that the USA & IEA are so intent on avoiding.
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Re: Afghanistan debate in Australia's Parliament

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Re: Afghanistan debate in Australia's Parliament

Postby alan » Thu Oct 21, 2010 1:42 am

Imagine how much better off we'd all be today if President Gore had not been the victim of a stolen election.

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Re: Afghanistan debate in Australia's Parliament

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Re: Afghanistan debate in Australia's Parliament

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Re: Afghanistan debate in Australia's Parliament

Postby alan » Thu Oct 21, 2010 2:34 am

I wasn't aware that Clinton invaded Kosovo.

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Re: Afghanistan debate in Australia's Parliament

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Re: Afghanistan debate in Australia's Parliament

Postby alan » Thu Oct 21, 2010 2:39 am

Not sure if Clinton's involvement in humanitarian relief should be considered an "invasion".

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Re: Afghanistan debate in Australia's Parliament

Postby alan » Thu Oct 21, 2010 2:41 am

You are certainly correct in your description of the psychotic right's reaction to current events, Tilt.

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Re: Afghanistan debate in Australia's Parliament

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