rai wrote: Greg wrote:
rai wrote:thanks for all the hints!
I read some parts of Chogyam Trungpa "Shambhala - The Sacred Path of the Warrior" and "Smile at Fear". CTR talk about raising the windhorse more as invoking outer and inner "dralas", being uplifted, joyfull, without doubt etc. Is he talking about the same concept or about something else?
He put his own spin on the concepts of lungta and drala and werma, to the extent that it may not seem to jibe with the traditional versions. Certainly the practices that are taught in Shambhala Training for raising lungta seem to be of his own devising. I'm not sure you would encounter them anywhere else.
thanks greg, is it possible to find more traditional explanations in english?
I would start here if you haven't already:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lungta
The article is not bad and has references that should be helpful, especially Karmay's book (though you should note that it is somewhat academic).
Also this article:http://www.rigpawiki.org/index.php?title=Drala
References Namkhai Norbu's Drung De'u and Bön, which also seems to have some information.
Often it can be helpful with stuff such as this to ascertain the full, proper transliteration (for drala, say, it can be "dgra bla" "sgra bla" and/or "dgra lha") and google that.
This explanation of Stein's is interesting (http://books.google.com/books?id=U7j758 ... la&f=false
) but I don't know how reliable it is, perhaps Namdrol can tell you.