Finding a teacher when you dislike interaction

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Re: Finding a teacher when you dislike interaction

Postby Grigoris » Wed Apr 11, 2012 5:15 pm

"My religion is not deceiving myself."
Jetsun Milarepa 1052-1135 CE

"Butchers, prostitutes, those guilty of the five most heinous crimes, outcasts, the underprivileged: all are utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss."
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Re: Finding a teacher when you dislike interaction

Postby catmoon » Thu Apr 12, 2012 7:38 am

Sergeant Schultz knew everything there was to know.

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Re: Finding a teacher when you dislike interaction

Postby jundo cohen » Thu Apr 12, 2012 8:09 am

Priest/Teacher at Treeleaf Zendo, a Soto Zen Sangha. Treeleaf Zendo was designed as an online practice place for Zen practitioners who cannot easily commute to a Zen Center due to health concerns, living in remote areas, or work, childcare and family needs, and seeks to provide Zazen sittings, retreats, discussion, interaction with a teacher, and all other activities of a Zen Buddhist Sangha, all fully online. The focus is Shikantaza "Just Sitting" Zazen as instructed by the 13th Century Japanese Master, Eihei Dogen. http://www.treeleaf.org

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Re: Finding a teacher when you dislike interaction

Postby Dechen Norbu » Thu Apr 12, 2012 3:59 pm

:roll:

Jundo,

I'm not even going to comment the sheer amount of things that disqualify you as a Buddhist, in my personal opinion, let alone as a Buddhist teacher. But that's my take, and you surely disagree.
In my opinion, you are that kind of guy who makes a living as lifeguard, all geared up and everything, in spite of not having the slightest idea about how to swim. Result? When you enter the water to save someone, both drown.
Just notice, as a friendly reminder, that this isn't ZFI. The sort of "teachings" you pass as Buddhadharma over there won't be allowed here unless in the Dharma-free-for-all subforum, opened to debate under its rules.


To all,

A fantastic meal with a drop of poison will kills you guys, not mattering how yummy it seems. Keep that in mind.
Poison in disguise is still poison. Some of Jundo's teachings and opinions are very controversial, even if very eloquent and well presented in this day and age. They are seen by many as gross corruptions of the Buddhist teachings. So, caveat emptor.

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Postby Indrajala » Thu Apr 12, 2012 5:23 pm

tad etat sarvajñānaṃ karuṇāmūlaṃ bodhicittahetukam upāyaparyavasānam iti |

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Re: Finding a teacher when you dislike interaction

Postby Seishin » Thu Apr 12, 2012 5:24 pm

This thread has gone WAAY out there now :alien:

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Re: Finding a teacher when you dislike interaction

Postby Grigoris » Thu Apr 12, 2012 5:45 pm

Yes, well, the new title of the thread is:

Finding a teacher you dislike and interacting with them. :tongue:
"My religion is not deceiving myself."
Jetsun Milarepa 1052-1135 CE

"Butchers, prostitutes, those guilty of the five most heinous crimes, outcasts, the underprivileged: all are utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss."
The Supreme Source - The Kunjed Gyalpo
The Fundamental Tantra of Dzogchen Semde

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Re: Finding a teacher when you dislike interaction

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Re: Finding a teacher when you dislike interaction

Postby muni » Sun Apr 15, 2012 1:21 pm

Please, don't generalise and label the vastness of these. A Buddhist student psychology who has some problems like "Autism Spectrum" told me about the danger. She said: "when we have a flu, we say i have flu. But by for example Asperger one should say: I am an Asperger." See what happens? We become that, what is reinforcing the independent state of limitations. The label is dependent on evolution, culture, the need to give the child a name and so on, even there is lots of variation.

Watch the new DSM statestics for 2013, Asperger will even not be mentioned anymore.

May you find good guidance through your Dharma journey Angelic. :namaste:

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Re: Finding a teacher when you dislike interaction

Postby Wesley1982 » Mon Apr 16, 2012 12:51 am

What's wrong with interacting with your teacher? Most are lucky to find one or be near the location of a zendo.

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Re: Finding a teacher when you dislike interaction

Postby Grigoris » Mon Apr 16, 2012 9:01 am

"My religion is not deceiving myself."
Jetsun Milarepa 1052-1135 CE

"Butchers, prostitutes, those guilty of the five most heinous crimes, outcasts, the underprivileged: all are utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss."
The Supreme Source - The Kunjed Gyalpo
The Fundamental Tantra of Dzogchen Semde

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Re: Finding a teacher when you dislike interaction

Postby muni » Mon Apr 16, 2012 11:16 am

All beings seek warmth, comfort, fellows who understand us, and we all have our limitations. The problem is that we do not listen enough to each other but expect all are like us. We feel to have distance since we cannot understand each other. Then people land for protection by those-like-us and build walls around "us" and "they". These cocoons are locking us in "here I belong too". In some way these are helping and give some temporary consolation, but not understanding- "others" are kept out. The samenesses in the group we maximize and the differences with "others" as well.
This is a habit of humans, like my friends and my enenies as well. Always those walls!!!

A saying: " we are all diamonds, perfect, even of different shapes". In this way walls aren't.

Talking over the internet is not so easy, still sure some good contacts can bring one by careful guidance without locking one up in "me and those where I belong". Keep the possibilities open.

We should stop to categorize people and put all in labeled boxes. Our nature is already enough hidden in our cocooning ideas.

Just two cents.

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Re: Finding a teacher when you dislike interaction

Postby Grigoris » Tue Apr 17, 2012 10:43 am

"My religion is not deceiving myself."
Jetsun Milarepa 1052-1135 CE

"Butchers, prostitutes, those guilty of the five most heinous crimes, outcasts, the underprivileged: all are utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss."
The Supreme Source - The Kunjed Gyalpo
The Fundamental Tantra of Dzogchen Semde


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