Hutuktu of Sikong?
Hutuktu of Sikong?
An introduction to the Surangama Sutra translated by Charles Luk notes that his first Dharma Master was the Hutuktu of Sikong. How was this master and does the lineage still exist?
This could have been quite early in the 20th century as Charles Luk was born in Canton in 1898. Hutuktu is a Mongolian term for tulku. Where is/was Sikong? Mongolia, China, Tibet, Southeast Asia, Nepal, Sikkim or from elsewhere in the general Tibetan Buddhist Himalayan cultural sphere?
Thanks!
Kirt
This could have been quite early in the 20th century as Charles Luk was born in Canton in 1898. Hutuktu is a Mongolian term for tulku. Where is/was Sikong? Mongolia, China, Tibet, Southeast Asia, Nepal, Sikkim or from elsewhere in the general Tibetan Buddhist Himalayan cultural sphere?
Thanks!
Kirt
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"Even if you practice only for an hour a day with faith and inspiration, good qualities will steadily increase. Regular practice makes it easy to transform your mind. From seeing only relative truth, you will eventually reach a profound certainty in the meaning of absolute truth."
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Zen Master Seung Sahn said, “That’s simple. Atomic bombs come from the mind that likes this and doesn’t like that.”
"Even if you practice only for an hour a day with faith and inspiration, good qualities will steadily increase. Regular practice makes it easy to transform your mind. From seeing only relative truth, you will eventually reach a profound certainty in the meaning of absolute truth."
Kyabje Dilgo Khyentse Rinpoche.
"Only you can make your mind beautiful."
HH Chetsang Rinpoche
Re: Hutuktu of Sikong?
Hi Kirt,
Just saw that nobody has come up with an answer, and decided to google it. There is a Sikong mountain but it seems to be more associated with Chan?
http://www.absolutechinatours.com/Anqin ... -4921.html
Just saw that nobody has come up with an answer, and decided to google it. There is a Sikong mountain but it seems to be more associated with Chan?
http://www.absolutechinatours.com/Anqin ... -4921.html
Re: Hutuktu of Sikong?
Hi Mudra -mudra wrote:Hi Kirt,
Just saw that nobody has come up with an answer, and decided to google it. There is a Sikong mountain but it seems to be more associated with Chan?
http://www.absolutechinatours.com/Anqin ... -4921.html
I saw that too (I looked it up after posting my msg a while ago). It would seem that there's an unwritten history here as the hutuktu would have to be associated with esoteric Buddhism and with that title probably a Mongolian lineage.
Where is Sikong mountain located?
Kirt
“Where do atomic bombs come from?”
Zen Master Seung Sahn said, “That’s simple. Atomic bombs come from the mind that likes this and doesn’t like that.”
"Even if you practice only for an hour a day with faith and inspiration, good qualities will steadily increase. Regular practice makes it easy to transform your mind. From seeing only relative truth, you will eventually reach a profound certainty in the meaning of absolute truth."
Kyabje Dilgo Khyentse Rinpoche.
"Only you can make your mind beautiful."
HH Chetsang Rinpoche
Zen Master Seung Sahn said, “That’s simple. Atomic bombs come from the mind that likes this and doesn’t like that.”
"Even if you practice only for an hour a day with faith and inspiration, good qualities will steadily increase. Regular practice makes it easy to transform your mind. From seeing only relative truth, you will eventually reach a profound certainty in the meaning of absolute truth."
Kyabje Dilgo Khyentse Rinpoche.
"Only you can make your mind beautiful."
HH Chetsang Rinpoche
Re: Hutuktu of Sikong?
Hi Kirt,
Judging by the location of Anhui province where Sikong mountain is saiod to besituated, it doesn't make sense:
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=htt ... s%3Disch:1
way too far south for Mongolians. If anything it relates more to Vietnam than Mongolia?
Stumped.
Judging by the location of Anhui province where Sikong mountain is saiod to besituated, it doesn't make sense:
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=htt ... s%3Disch:1
way too far south for Mongolians. If anything it relates more to Vietnam than Mongolia?
Stumped.
Re: Hutuktu of Sikong?
Hey Kirt,
Was just browsing the net and came upon reference to Sikong as being in steppes, and Inner Mongolia was alluded to in the same citation:
http://books.google.com/books?id=riDT0B ... ia&f=false
Sikong Mountain was a red herring it seems!
Was just browsing the net and came upon reference to Sikong as being in steppes, and Inner Mongolia was alluded to in the same citation:
http://books.google.com/books?id=riDT0B ... ia&f=false
Sikong Mountain was a red herring it seems!
Re: Hutuktu of Sikong?
Thanks Mudra! That's a good catch. I'm finding some other references to Sikong in Inner Mongolia.mudra wrote:Hey Kirt,
Was just browsing the net and came upon reference to Sikong as being in steppes, and Inner Mongolia was alluded to in the same citation:
http://books.google.com/books?id=riDT0B ... ia&f=false
Sikong Mountain was a red herring it seems!
Kirt
“Where do atomic bombs come from?”
Zen Master Seung Sahn said, “That’s simple. Atomic bombs come from the mind that likes this and doesn’t like that.”
"Even if you practice only for an hour a day with faith and inspiration, good qualities will steadily increase. Regular practice makes it easy to transform your mind. From seeing only relative truth, you will eventually reach a profound certainty in the meaning of absolute truth."
Kyabje Dilgo Khyentse Rinpoche.
"Only you can make your mind beautiful."
HH Chetsang Rinpoche
Zen Master Seung Sahn said, “That’s simple. Atomic bombs come from the mind that likes this and doesn’t like that.”
"Even if you practice only for an hour a day with faith and inspiration, good qualities will steadily increase. Regular practice makes it easy to transform your mind. From seeing only relative truth, you will eventually reach a profound certainty in the meaning of absolute truth."
Kyabje Dilgo Khyentse Rinpoche.
"Only you can make your mind beautiful."
HH Chetsang Rinpoche
Re: Hutuktu of Sikong?
kirtu wrote:Thanks Mudra! That's a good catch. I'm finding some other references to Sikong in Inner Mongolia.mudra wrote:Hey Kirt,
Was just browsing the net and came upon reference to Sikong as being in steppes, and Inner Mongolia was alluded to in the same citation:
http://books.google.com/books?id=riDT0B ... ia&f=false
Sikong Mountain was a red herring it seems!
Kirt
Sikong is possibly just Xinjiang in another dialect. This is the Uigyur area in far western PRoC.
Re: Hutuktu of Sikong?
Charles Luk's Chinese name is 陸寬昱. Hutuktu of Sikong is referring to 西康之呼圖克圖.
Sikong(西康), was actually an old district/province name in China. According to http://baike.baidu.com/view/296195.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; that is located near the western part of current SiChuan/Szechwan (四川) and eastern Tibet.
Sikong(西康), was actually an old district/province name in China. According to http://baike.baidu.com/view/296195.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; that is located near the western part of current SiChuan/Szechwan (四川) and eastern Tibet.
Re: Hutuktu of Sikong?
Hi Some1,some1 wrote:Charles Luk's Chinese name is 陸寬昱. Hutuktu of Sikong is referring to 西康之呼圖克圖.
Sikong(西康), was actually an old district/province name in China. According to http://baike.baidu.com/view/296195.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; that is located near the western part of current SiChuan/Szechwan (四川) and eastern Tibet.
What would be the transliteration of the Chinese characters for Hutuktu of Sikong above?
Thanks
Re: Hutuktu of Sikong?
Hi Mudra,
As I mentioned previously, it is impossible to transliterate Chinese accurately in using roman characters. Anyway, 西康之呼圖克圖 in pinyin is xī kāng zhī hū tú kè tú.
呼圖克圖 is in fact the Chinese transcription for Hutuktu (as mentioned in the OP, Hutuktu is a Mongolian term for tulku). This term was actually used as the official title for leaders of Mongolian and Tibetan Lamas during the Qing Dynasty .
http://www.zdic.net/cd/ci/8/ZdicE5Zdic9 ... 113241.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
As I mentioned previously, it is impossible to transliterate Chinese accurately in using roman characters. Anyway, 西康之呼圖克圖 in pinyin is xī kāng zhī hū tú kè tú.
呼圖克圖 is in fact the Chinese transcription for Hutuktu (as mentioned in the OP, Hutuktu is a Mongolian term for tulku). This term was actually used as the official title for leaders of Mongolian and Tibetan Lamas during the Qing Dynasty .
http://www.zdic.net/cd/ci/8/ZdicE5Zdic9 ... 113241.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: Hutuktu of Sikong?
I could not find any details about Charles Luk's first Dharma Master on the Internet other than being "the Hutuktu of Sikong". I think possibly that was either 諾那呼圖克圖 (Nora Gaya Lama Khutughtu) or 贡噶呼图克图 (9th Gangkar Hutuktu)kirtu wrote:An introduction to the Surangama Sutra translated by Charles Luk notes that his first Dharma Master was the Hutuktu of Sikong. How was this master and does the lineage still exist?
This could have been quite early in the 20th century as Charles Luk was born in Canton in 1898. Hutuktu is a Mongolian term for tulku. Where is/was Sikong? Mongolia, China, Tibet, Southeast Asia, Nepal, Sikkim or from elsewhere in the general Tibetan Buddhist Himalayan cultural sphere?
Thanks!
Kirt
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