gregkavarnos wrote:Don't know what martial art you have practiced but all the ones I know involve controlled violence being directed at oneself (and not always controlled depending on the student/teacher you have in front of you).Martial arts protects from violence upon oneself.
Jikan wrote:I'm bumping this old thread, because I'd like to reconsider or complicate some ideas I'd had about this earlier. This may be a way in which a Buddhist tradition can be practiced properly in a martial arts context:
not as a marketing ploy, but as a good-faith engagement. Further, the tradition they are working in has been involved with martial arts practices for generations.
I was introduced to Buddhist meditation by my first martial arts teacher, but I have mainly encountered pseudo-spirituality in meditation techniques taught within the context of marital arts. By "pseudo" I mean that the aim of the meditation is not liberation, but merely to improve ones capacity to focus within a martial situation through increased concentration.Jikan wrote:I mean housing the two activities simultaneously under the same roof. I'm familiar with some instances in which this has gone very badly. It appears to me that the one I gave a post or two back is a counterexample to that. And it makes me want to go hunting for an aikido gi.
Huseng wrote:mr. gordo wrote:Huseng wrote:Buddhism teaches ahimsa or non-violence, so learning how to fight is inappropriate. Spend that time eradicating your negative emotions and greed.
Huseng, do you think learning self-defense is to be completely excluded for Mahayana / Vajrayana lay people?
I won't say it is or it isn't. My opinion is just that it is inappropriate. That is merely just my opinion.
Jikan wrote:I've had reason to think and rethink this discussion recently. Here is a question I've not seen an answer to yet:
Are there any Buddhist masters, in the present or in history, who were also and simultaneously martial arts masters?
I can't think of one, but this may simply reflect my own ignorance.
Mr. G wrote:I think there is a lot of apocryphal information regarding Bodhidharma. However, even if we accept he taught physical exercises to monks as a form of exercise, the evolution from health exercises to martial arts was something I personally doubt he would have approved of.
In terms of how martial arts formed in Shaolin, it was due to outside influences (martial artists) that ended up influencing the "martial" aspect.
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