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the womb of compassion

Postby tobes » Wed Apr 04, 2012 4:49 am

This is an easy one: which text did Nagarjuna assert that emptiness is the womb/essence (garbha) of compassion?

I can't for the life of me remember.....

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Re: the womb of compassion

Postby pueraeternus » Wed Apr 04, 2012 1:01 pm

The sunyatakarungarbha appears in his Ratnavali.
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Re: the womb of compassion

Postby Will » Wed Apr 04, 2012 3:39 pm

pueraeternus wrote:The sunyatakarungarbha appears in his Ratnavali.


Hopkins, in verse 396, renders this "essence of compassion and emptiness"
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Re: the womb of compassion

Postby pueraeternus » Wed Apr 04, 2012 4:17 pm

Will wrote:
pueraeternus wrote:The sunyatakarungarbha appears in his Ratnavali.


Hopkins, in verse 396, renders this "essence of compassion and emptiness"


I remember attending a talk by Robert Thurman, where he described this concept as something like "true emptiness is indeed true compassion". In many other translations, it is as Hopkins rendered - essence of compassion + emptiness, which gives a notion of compassion and emptiness as two separate things co-joined. I somehow prefer Thurman's explanation.
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Re: the womb of compassion

Postby ghost01 » Wed Apr 04, 2012 4:39 pm

Ajahn Brahmavamso has a dhamma talk where he says emptiness is the ultimate form of love, emptiness accepts everything, like the sky accepts the sun and moon, like space accepts everything within it.

love/compassion, same thing.
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Re: the womb of compassion

Postby tobes » Fri Apr 06, 2012 8:18 am

Thankyou my friends. :twothumbsup:
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