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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 9:08 pm 
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The basic purpose of meditation is to help one to recognize the nature of the Mind, to master the Mind and to become cognizant of the clarity of the Mind. A Mind that is not mastered is a Mind full of worries. Worries are created by an untamed Mind—thinking of what should not be thought of, or, vice-versa, not thinking of what should be thought of. Consequently, life cannot be lived to the fullest unless the Mind is tamed and mastered.

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"There is no such thing as the real mind. Ridding yourself of delusion: that's the real mind."
(Sheng-yen: Getting the Buddha Mind, p 73)

"Neither cultivation nor seated meditation — this is the pure Chan of Tathagata."
(Mazu Daoyi, X1321p3b23; tr. Jinhua Jia)

“Don’t rashly seek the true Buddha;
True Buddha can’t be found.
Does marvelous nature and spirit
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Mind is this mind carefree;
This face, the face at birth."

(Nanyue Mingzan: Enjoying the Way, tr. Jeff Shore; T2076p461b24-26)


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 11:46 am 
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"What is pure Mind? The Master says: “I am speaking to you, and you are listening to me. The capability to listen without discriminating, without the intervention of interpretation or judgment, is a capability of pure Mind.”
If the Mind is judgmental and discriminating, then it can no longer be called pure Mind. It is the Mind of the ordinary person because it is controlled by attachments. Take for example the phenomenon of hearing. Some can hear sound and some cannot. The deaf are aware that they do not hear sound. This knowing is an immutable characteristic of Mind. The ability to be aware of the absence of sound in the deaf is no different from the ability to be aware of the presence of sound in normal people. This ability is inherent in all human beings. Adults as well as children have it. This Mind is formless, non-discriminative and it has neither beginning nor end. It can neither be created nor annihilated. All possess the same Mind, yet, due to distortion, the oneness of Reality fragments into duality. Therefore, different things are heard. This means that even though the same words are heard, the discriminating Mind interprets the words differently. Therefore, each one forms different notions and concepts based upon these very same words because of conditioning to a certain way of thinking. What is manifested by pure Mind (Truth) is compared to what has been altered by personal judgment or interpretation (subjective reality)."

(Jian Liao: Chan)

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"There is no such thing as the real mind. Ridding yourself of delusion: that's the real mind."
(Sheng-yen: Getting the Buddha Mind, p 73)

"Neither cultivation nor seated meditation — this is the pure Chan of Tathagata."
(Mazu Daoyi, X1321p3b23; tr. Jinhua Jia)

“Don’t rashly seek the true Buddha;
True Buddha can’t be found.
Does marvelous nature and spirit
Need tempering or refinement?
Mind is this mind carefree;
This face, the face at birth."

(Nanyue Mingzan: Enjoying the Way, tr. Jeff Shore; T2076p461b24-26)


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 5:13 pm 
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yes ''worries are created by an untamed mind'', unless we have mental discipline that comes from meditation it will be hard to let go of our suffering.

i see that as an important aspect of zazen. disciplining the mind in order to let go. the essence of just being is just letting go. non attachment; impossimble without mindfulness and control.

zazen or shamatha enables one to see the exceedingly subtle and mundane. it is since one is observing not a thing, (except sometimes the breath) that one is able to appreciate the subtilty of the dharma/dhamma nature.

thanks Astus. Another good quote.

best wishes, Tom.

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