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Dhammanucara
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sacrifice and karma

Postby Dhammanucara » Wed Oct 06, 2010 8:35 pm

I was reading through the Jataka stories about the Bodhisatta's pat lives who lived to perfect his paramis, and there upon came a question to my mind when I finished reading about Vessantara Jataka, and the story where he threw himself to the hungry tigress to avoid her from eating her own cubs. I may have interpreted it wrongly, but to me, his acts of life-sacrifice seem to be similar with suicide. And according to my understanding, those who commit suicide are actually taking away their own lives (breaking the 1st precept) and would have heavy, bad karmic consequences. Would those life-sacrifices that the Bodhisatta commit fall under this category? Why or why not?
Thanks.

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Dhammanucara :namaste:

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Re: sacrifice and karma

Postby bodom » Wed Oct 06, 2010 9:44 pm

To study is to know the texts,
To practice is to know your defilements,
To attain the goal is to know and let go.

- Ajahn Lee Dhammadharo


With mindfulness immersed in the body
well established, restrained
with regard to the six media of contact,
always centered, the monk
can know Unbinding for himself.

- Ud 3.5


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http://www.ajahnchah.org/

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Re: sacrifice and karma

Postby Hanzze » Thu Oct 07, 2010 12:19 am

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Just that! *smile*


BUT! it is important to become a real Buddhist first. Like Punna did: Nate sante baram sokham _()_

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Re: sacrifice and karma

Postby Individual » Thu Oct 07, 2010 1:13 am

The best things in life aren't things.


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Re: sacrifice and karma

Postby Hanzze » Thu Oct 07, 2010 12:36 pm

_/\_
Last edited by Hanzze on Sun Oct 31, 2010 6:33 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Just that! *smile*


BUT! it is important to become a real Buddhist first. Like Punna did: Nate sante baram sokham _()_

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Re: sacrifice and karma

Postby pt1 » Thu Oct 07, 2010 1:38 pm


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Re: sacrifice and karma

Postby Dhammanucara » Mon Oct 11, 2010 7:37 pm

Hi all,
Thanks for the input, really appreciate it. I guess pt1 is right; that as long as the sacrifice is not guided by greed, hatred and delusion, then it should be acceptable.
In the Vessantara Jataka that I read about, it was said that Prince Vessantara deceived Maddi about her ominous dream that her limbs were cut off, though the prince was very clear about the meaning of the dream. While totally understanding his intention that his objective could be achieved (i.e. perfection of his giving parami), I was wondering if such deceptive act would beget any bad karma to himself?

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Re: sacrifice and karma

Postby cooran » Mon Oct 11, 2010 8:19 pm

---The trouble is that you think you have time---
---Worry is the Interest, paid in advance, on a debt you may never owe---
---It's not what happens to you in life that is important ~ it's what you do with it ---


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