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Suttanta method?

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Thanks. Do you have any leads? :thanks:


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Postby Spiny O'Norman » Sat Oct 02, 2010 2:01 pm

I might be missing the point in terms of these new sub-forums, but doesn't Suttanta include vipassana?

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Postby mikenz66 » Sat Oct 02, 2010 8:23 pm

Hi TheReductor,

Actually, I wasn't thinking in terms of personal instruction versus reading. The question is whether it is possible to become established in a Dhamma practise on the basis of only reading Suttas (or Suttas and Commentatries) with no input from other sources.

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"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

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Postby Kenshou » Sun Oct 03, 2010 12:56 am

I like the sound of that, Retro.

I've come to regard the Theravadin commentary as I would any other teacher, another voice to listen to, another perspective that might prove useful, but not necessarily the final word, just like I wouldn't regard any other random bhikkhu's take to be the final word.

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Postby cooran » Sun Oct 03, 2010 3:08 am

Hello all,

A couple of related threads:

did the buddha teach vipasanna meditation?
viewtopic.php?f=17&t=1210

Meditation Mindfulness Technique
viewtopic.php?f=17&t=1151

Personally, I don't think the Suttas delineate a particular Technique or Method - I believe that those hearing the suttas were in a group and able to access the instruction of someone well-versed in the Dhamma to practise correctly.

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Postby Reductor » Sun Oct 03, 2010 3:59 am

Nice post, Retro.

I was thinking that we often loose sight of how the canon and the Theravada are related. That is, the Theravada is a supplement to the canon, and not the other way around. So where a mode of practice can be effectively defended with canonical material it should be considered as valid. To insist that such a position is invalid because it runs counter to the tradition is, to me, the making of inappropriate strife.

And while I do concur that the canon is not the most detailed manual, I hold that the details within its pages are sufficient for completion of the goal. Whether or not a particular practitioner can ferret out the information and act on it to the degree necessary to accomplish the goal is a matter of personal conditioning.

But with that said, I've certainly had some hard questions that I would have liked put to a teacher. But lacking such, I was forced to think them over long and hard. Perhaps I've gotten to the correct answers. Or perhaps not.

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