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Postby lojong1 » Wed Sep 29, 2010 2:31 pm

Dang it okay I'm tapping. I was so sure that earthquakes had something to do with tectonic plate movement due to gravitational shifts through massive liquids above the crust and in the outer core, and that Buddha and modern science agreed at least that far.
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Re: Science-Earthquake

Postby Shonin » Wed Sep 29, 2010 2:39 pm

What is the origin of tapping? Trying to think of ways to keep the idea that the Buddha of the Pali Canon, is omniscient? Forget it.

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Re: Science-Earthquake

Postby lojong1 » Wed Sep 29, 2010 2:44 pm

Not omniscient, just not a bullsheisser. Tapping as in MMA I give up--or rather, my arm's good and trapped, let's reset.
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Re: Science-Earthquake

Postby Shonin » Wed Sep 29, 2010 2:47 pm

Well I don't think that there's any reason to suppose he was deliberately misleading anyone. He was simply expressing himself in terms of the understand of his day (which was almost certainly his understanding too, as I see it). The earth is established upon liquid, the liquid upon the atmosphere, and the atmosphere upon space. Of course it is. Don't you know anything?

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Postby rahula80 » Wed Sep 29, 2010 3:36 pm

Hi,

I took a look at the link provided by Lojong1.

Paul A. LaViolette looks like a credible scientist. He has published in peer-reviewed journal. His book Earth under Fire is based on his PhD dissertation. Anybody who think otherwise would care to comment?

His theory, too, may lend support to what the Buddha said.

Anyway, my POV is that to find scientific answers to scientific querries in the Suttas is improper and wrong.

Best wishes,
Rahula

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Re: Science-Earthquake

Postby lojong1 » Wed Sep 29, 2010 3:52 pm

There's that smell again...rose scented animal feces.

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Re: Science-Earthquake

Postby Sanghamitta » Thu Sep 30, 2010 10:12 am

I am not at all sure that I know how to disambiguate...
But I think it means dont look to the Suttas for an explanation of the phenomenological universe which corresponds at all points to that of science.
Its not the job of the Suttas.
Of course if we see the Suttas as DivInely Inspired Scriptures...this could be problem . But if we dont, If we see them as a bit of an old mishmash of carefully recorded utterances of the Buddha , prevailing myth, and later additions.... then safely through the thickets of ambiguity we go.
The going for refuge is the door of entrance to the teachings of the Buddha.

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Re: Science-Earthquake

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Quite

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Postby lojong1 » Fri Oct 01, 2010 2:34 am

"mahāpathavī udake patiṭṭhitā, udakaṃ vāte patiṭṭhitaṃ, vāto ākāsaṭṭho"
(Rhetorical) What does it mean to be "patiṭṭhitā"?
Paul Heckert: "Earth and Solid Planets Were Once Liquid.
"Surface tension will pull liquids and gasses into a spherical shape but not solids. The fact that Earth, Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars and the larger moons of Jupiter or Saturn are all spherical tells astronomers that they were once liquid. These worlds are all solid now, but were liquid when they first formed. The smaller moons of Jupiter or Saturn, and asteroids are not spherical because they were never liquid." http://www.suite101.com/content/why-are ... nd-a189153

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Re: Science-Earthquake

Postby Mawkish1983 » Fri Oct 01, 2010 5:21 am

Incidentally, it's a common misconception that the plates float on a liquid. The magma in the mantle is 95-99% solid.

We've been looking at misconceptions on the teacher training course and this one in particular came up. Text books were shown to contain at least one error per page on average on the subject of Earth sciences.

And yet most of the world is happy with the misconception. It works for them. Media (films like 'The Core') help cement the misconceptions. Fact is, the mantle transmits S-waves, so is mostly solid.

On an unrelated note, about 20% of children in the UK leave school believing in the continuum matter theory, rejecting the particle matter theory,

Just thought I'd share.

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