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How often do you contemplate the 10 Paramitas? - Dhamma Wheel

How often do you contemplate the 10 Paramitas?

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How often do you contemplate the 10 Paramitas?

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Re: How often do you contemplate the 10 Paramitas?

Postby bodom » Mon Sep 20, 2010 7:58 pm

Hi mettafuture

The ten paramis are a guiding ideal to my practice.

This is my favorite book on the paramis:

A Treatise on the Paramis From the Commentary to the Cariyapitaka by Acariya Dhammapala

http://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/auth ... el409.html

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Re: How often do you contemplate the 10 Paramitas?

Postby Ytrog » Mon Sep 20, 2010 9:26 pm

How would you contemplate, for example, Pañña (wisdom, discernment)?

What is meant by contemplating in this context? thinking about them? Trying to see how well they are developed in yourself? How would one know?

Trying to bring them into your life as a practise is something I can imagine, but what is meant here with contemplating? Sorry if this may seem like a stupid question, but this is something I wanted to ask about for some time.

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Re: How often do you contemplate the 10 Paramitas?

Postby retrofuturist » Tue Sep 21, 2010 12:35 am

Greetings Mettafuture,

In my case, it's only when I'm reading about them.

This particular list doesn't mean much to me, as the Buddha himself devised many lists and the "ten paramitas" was not one of them. This particular paramita listing is a commentarial device, seemingly co-opted/adapted from Mahayana Buddhism.

To that end, I find lists such the Noble Eightfold Path to be more useful and direct (since I do not strive to follow a bodhisattva path).

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Re: How often do you contemplate the 10 Paramitas?

Postby Kim OHara » Tue Sep 21, 2010 1:07 am

Hi, mettafuture,
I'm with retro on this, though perhaps for slightly different reasons: your list overlaps almost completely with the 8FP and the four Brahmaviharas (as it should, if the main messages are going to be consistent from one part of the dhamma to another), and those lists are more familiar ad therefore easier to call to mind.
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Re: How often do you contemplate the 10 Paramitas?

Postby mettafuture » Tue Sep 21, 2010 1:41 am

I guess it's a matter of personal preference.

Although the 10 paramitas can be considered a commentarial device, I've found that they do a nice job at bringing some key points from the 8-fold path and the 4 brahma-viharas together into a single list. Of course we should place the 8-fold path and 4 noble truths at the top, but, personally, I don't believe the wisdom that can be found in some of the commentaries should be entirely dismissed.
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"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

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Then the Blessed One, picking up a tiny bit of dust with the tip of his fingernail, said to the monk, "There isn't even this much form...feeling...
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Re: How often do you contemplate the 10 Paramitas?

Postby retrofuturist » Tue Sep 21, 2010 3:33 am

"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" - Thomas Paine

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Re: How often do you contemplate the 10 Paramitas?

Postby Ben » Tue Sep 21, 2010 3:40 am

“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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