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Richard Gombrich

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Re: Richard Gombrich

Postby alan » Wed Sep 15, 2010 3:13 am

You're missing the point, RYB.
Gombrich simply asserts that the Pali Canon reflects the teachings of one man, who was a genius. He's countering those who might argue that it is a collection of many views, or the nefarious idea that we can't really tell if there ever was such a person.
This has nothing to do with achievements or levels of understanding.

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Re: Richard Gombrich

Postby Shonin » Wed Sep 15, 2010 6:31 am

We don't need to have attained '16 nanas' to know that Aristotle and Da Vinci were geniuses. Why would Buddha be different?

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Re: Richard Gombrich

Postby Ben » Wed Sep 15, 2010 9:07 am

“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: Richard Gombrich

Postby rowyourboat » Wed Sep 15, 2010 5:24 pm

:smile: looks like I've raised a bit of a hornet's nest! I hope I have succeeded a little bit at least in those of you who might be resting on your current dhamma laurels. :stirthepot: I ask you what you must do to fit the description of the arya sangha- to be worthy of veneration ('anjalikaraneyyo'), to be worthy of gifts brought from afar ('aahuneyyo'), to be worthy of gifts given in seeking merit ('pahuneyyo'). What kind of practice would such a person have? - a bit of internet surfing perhaps?

Well, I'm going to leave it to you folks to think about Prof Gombrich. It is my belief that anyone who claims to know the dhamma and is a professor of the matter, should consider himself a buddhist; else he hasn't understood much. He may well be useful in clarifying history and other such matters, but perhaps not about the dhamma itself.
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Re: Richard Gombrich

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Re: Richard Gombrich

Postby alan » Thu Sep 16, 2010 4:29 am

A more interesting question might be: Why does Gombrich make such a fuss about Buddha being a "genius"?
Perhaps it is because he (Gombrich) is an academic, a non-meditator, and feels the need to place him (The Buddha) in an exemplary position against the well known and accepted great thinkers of history in order to make his points.
The book is a collection of speeches--perhaps he tailored his delivery to the audience?

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Re: Richard Gombrich

Postby tiltbillings » Thu Sep 16, 2010 4:33 am


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Re: Richard Gombrich

Postby alan » Thu Sep 16, 2010 4:39 am

Why do you think he made that assessment?

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Re: Richard Gombrich

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Re: Richard Gombrich

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Re: Richard Gombrich

Postby alan » Thu Sep 16, 2010 4:44 am

I haven't found any other books where the Buddha is called a genius, and compared with the great thinkers of Western philosophy. To establish that idea might be called a "fuss".

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Re: Richard Gombrich

Postby alan » Thu Sep 16, 2010 4:49 am

That was a response, tilt, not an answer.

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Re: Richard Gombrich

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Re: Richard Gombrich

Postby alan » Thu Sep 16, 2010 5:02 am

Thanks for the link! I'm sure it will be good reading.
Just to the point though--what is your opinion on this?

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Re: Richard Gombrich

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Re: Richard Gombrich

Postby alan » Thu Sep 16, 2010 5:14 am

Do you agree with Gombrich's assertion of genius?

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Re: Richard Gombrich

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Re: Richard Gombrich

Postby alan » Thu Sep 16, 2010 5:23 am

Well them we have something in common!

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Re: Richard Gombrich

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Re: Richard Gombrich

Postby rowyourboat » Mon Sep 20, 2010 8:29 pm

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