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Nibbida on the internet [Warning: links to graphic content]

Postby Sekha » Sat Sep 18, 2010 5:54 am

This thread is for those who wish to get rid of gross forms of desire such as sexual desire.

Nothing pleasant in it at all.

The Buddha used to praise the pratice of directing one's attention towards foul objects in order to overcome gross forms of craving. He advised to visit charnel grounds and to observe decomposing bodies, understanding: 'this will happen to this body also, and it can't escape it'. We generally don't have these grounds any more, but we have the internet.

In my experience, this technique is a very good way to overcome lust for material existence, especially sexual desire. I experimented it first at a time I was in such a struggle I had to be creative in my ways to fight. It happened like at some points my mind was overcome by the lust, after an effort I would get back to senses for a few seconds and then get overcome again etc. What I did was seizing a moment when I was back to senses and I made use of it to play this powerful asset: nibbida.

So I went on the internet and found lots of pictures inducing nibbida. I imagine it is far less impressive than a real charnel ground, but it is enough to calm down a storm. I want to share this with you because I have never read of anybody doing this and I find it very useful.

Below, you will find the kind of picture that will surely get your desire down:

these pictures show dead bodies in pretty bad conditions. Make sure this is what you're prepared to see before clicking on these links:


In my experience, the people who are interested in this kind of pictures on the internet are completely misguided. If you decide to engage in this, make sure you keep your mental sanity and don't read the comments people write.
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Postby Sekha » Sat Sep 18, 2010 6:06 am

Just wanted to add that if you are looking for actual renunciation from lust and experience difficulties with it, this tool, if used properly, will ensure your success.
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Postby Ytrog » Sat Sep 18, 2010 7:59 am

Thanks for the pics. I also have the desire to get rid of this. My method is a little different though: Whenever I feel lust I imagine the object of my lust decompose rapidly before my eyes. It works most of the time.

What is that pit from the last photo btw?

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Re: Nibbida on the internet

Postby bodom » Sat Sep 18, 2010 1:57 pm

Hi Dukkhanirodha

See these threads as well...

Viewing images of Corpses online
viewtopic.php?f=17&t=4885

Satipatthana contemplation of a corpse
viewtopic.php?f=17&t=1259

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To study is to know the texts,
To practice is to know your defilements,
To attain the goal is to know and let go.

- Ajahn Lee Dhammadharo


With mindfulness immersed in the body
well established, restrained
with regard to the six media of contact,
always centered, the monk
can know Unbinding for himself.

- Ud 3.5


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http://www.ajahnchah.org/

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Re: Nibbida on the internet

Postby tiltbillings » Sun Sep 19, 2010 5:35 am

Moderator note: This thread was moved out of sight while its subject matter, particularly the links to the photos, could be considered. The thread is being restored as it originally was.

Non-moderator comment: In reference to the above linked photos in the OP, it is hard not to see these photos – in themselves - as a form of pornography. I would question why would anyone want to associate these photos with sex, even under the guise of supposedly quashing lust?

The classic body meditations/contemplations have their place within a context, but even then they have a potential of being very dangerous, which is why it is best to work with an experienced and balanced teacher. These photos push well beyond the classic framework. And one of the dangers of such photos is a desensitization to what is be shown and the association of such utterly gruesome photos with one’s feelings of sexuality does not strike me as a balanced basis for a healthy attitude towards sex.

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Re: Nibbida on the internet [Warning: links to graphic content]

Postby Ben » Sun Sep 19, 2010 6:19 am

I think I'll stick with observing the rise and fall of phenomena for the eradication of the defilement of lust. I don't think I need to look at photos like that to generate samvega and nibbida.
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“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
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Postby Ytrog » Sun Sep 19, 2010 1:02 pm

If these photo's aren't any good for nibbida then what's the big difference with going to watch a dead body at the funeral grounds? :?

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Postby bodom » Sun Sep 19, 2010 6:06 pm

To study is to know the texts,
To practice is to know your defilements,
To attain the goal is to know and let go.

- Ajahn Lee Dhammadharo


With mindfulness immersed in the body
well established, restrained
with regard to the six media of contact,
always centered, the monk
can know Unbinding for himself.

- Ud 3.5


https://www.dhammatalks.org/index.html
http://www.ajahnchah.org/

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Postby bodom » Sun Sep 19, 2010 6:10 pm

To study is to know the texts,
To practice is to know your defilements,
To attain the goal is to know and let go.

- Ajahn Lee Dhammadharo


With mindfulness immersed in the body
well established, restrained
with regard to the six media of contact,
always centered, the monk
can know Unbinding for himself.

- Ud 3.5


https://www.dhammatalks.org/index.html
http://www.ajahnchah.org/

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Postby bodom » Sun Sep 19, 2010 6:11 pm

To study is to know the texts,
To practice is to know your defilements,
To attain the goal is to know and let go.

- Ajahn Lee Dhammadharo


With mindfulness immersed in the body
well established, restrained
with regard to the six media of contact,
always centered, the monk
can know Unbinding for himself.

- Ud 3.5


https://www.dhammatalks.org/index.html
http://www.ajahnchah.org/

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Postby bodom » Sun Sep 19, 2010 6:14 pm

To study is to know the texts,
To practice is to know your defilements,
To attain the goal is to know and let go.

- Ajahn Lee Dhammadharo


With mindfulness immersed in the body
well established, restrained
with regard to the six media of contact,
always centered, the monk
can know Unbinding for himself.

- Ud 3.5


https://www.dhammatalks.org/index.html
http://www.ajahnchah.org/

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Re: Nibbida on the internet [Warning: links to graphic content]

Postby bodom » Sun Sep 19, 2010 6:24 pm

So in short, this practice is not for everyone. If it is to be undertaken, it should be done responsibly and under the guidance of a qualified teacher and done only for the purpose of producing dispassion and never aversion.

Bodhi's essay can be found here:

http://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/auth ... d.html#ch6

:anjali:
To study is to know the texts,
To practice is to know your defilements,
To attain the goal is to know and let go.

- Ajahn Lee Dhammadharo


With mindfulness immersed in the body
well established, restrained
with regard to the six media of contact,
always centered, the monk
can know Unbinding for himself.

- Ud 3.5


https://www.dhammatalks.org/index.html
http://www.ajahnchah.org/


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