It is unbelievable what is being said, one of the problems with the scare stories is that the SNP have been remarkably competent. The main thrust of the attack is that Scotland that gets more money handed to it that it gives to the UK treasury which if you factor in oil wealth ( something the UK government doesn't do ) isn't true at all. We give free care to the elderly, university tuition is free and all prescribed medicine is also free - I point out that those south of the border could also have this, it is just that conservative cronies propped up by liberal democrat sell outs will never see it as a priority. It is a little ironic to attack us for spending money, 'extra' money when it is clearly the case that the Westminster government just couldn't care less about it's own citizens south of the border.He said many in the UK somehow are trying to either mock or scare Scotland, into believing becoming independent would be a disaster for them...
samdrup wrote:No Kirt, It's a bit more serious than that to us Scots. If you have nothing constructive to add, probably best not to just chip in with the first 2 Scottish cliches that came to mind. Surprised you never mentioned shortbread.
samdrup wrote:Highlander?! ... with the first 2 Scottish cliches that came to mind.
Surprised you never mentioned shortbread.
kirtu wrote:samdrup wrote:Highlander?! ... with the first 2 Scottish cliches that came to mind.
It was a set of three cult movies (the first being the best) and a US-Canadian TV show.Surprised you never mentioned shortbread.
I had no idea that shortbread was Scottish. In fact I have no real idea what shortbread is aside from some English thing. Pumpernickel bread (yum ) I can identify and ask for in a few languages. Shortbread - not really.
samdrup wrote: Anyone who can read can source the speech you just gave on Wikipedia in 5 minutes.
samdrup wrote:Just you, hitting out with your clever little list of examples. Anyway see above, goodnight.
Afraid that just isn't true. It isn't an assertion of superiority of one group of another I don't think - in fact there have never been any recent race riots up here in a long time, not in my 26 years I can remember - the SNP actually advocate an increase immigration to Scotland from Europe - something that cannot be said of our pillock of a prime minster David Cameron. It is the feeling that as a region we could do a better without inefficient Westminster.after all the UK is a legal union so Scotland is already independent
AdmiralJim wrote:Afraid that just isn't true.after all the UK is a legal union so Scotland is already independent
It isn't an assertion of superiority of one group of another
samdrub wrote: Not to mention the innovators and inventors, scientists and thinkers who have shaped the modern world we live in.
It is the feeling that as a region we could do a better without inefficient Westminster.
It is also pretty depressing that a country that which enshrines the values of democracy
especially the 'Declaration of Arbroath', which even one of your presidents said had an influence on the founding fathers.
That is pretty naive you have obviously never heard of the 'Scottish Enlightenment', it is not a claim of superiority at all. As for the shared royal family you obviously do not know your history again, the true heirs to the throne of Scotland was the house of Stuart. You call it regionalism lol well it goes far beyond this as I have already pointed out Scotland was independent a lot longer than it has been part of the Union. The Union was very much a shotgun wedding because Scottish nobles lined their own purses while the common man had absolutely no say - this in combination with long term Westminster excess is what is driving the independence referendum not some weird racial nationalism which you seem to think it is.I've heard similar assertions of Scottish superiority usually stated as name an English scientist or inventor, to which in response hapless Americans recite a litany of Scotts.
this in combination with long term Westminster excess is what is driving the independence referendum not some weird racial nationalism which you seem to think it is.
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