A third candidate

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Re: A third candidate

Postby Sherab Dorje » Fri Feb 03, 2012 6:43 pm

I just didn't want to use the same verb twice, that's also why I put the word "chosen" in apostrophes.
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Re: A third candidate

Postby conebeckham » Fri Feb 03, 2012 7:26 pm

No prob, Greg--just wanted the record to be clear. :namaste:
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Re: A third candidate

Postby Stewart » Fri Feb 03, 2012 7:57 pm

.....and Karmapa doesn't 'live with the Dalai Lama' Karmapa lives at Gyuto in Sidhbari...the Dalai Lama lives in McLeod Ganj, about half an hour away.
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Re: A third candidate

Postby Sherab Dorje » Fri Feb 03, 2012 7:59 pm

samdrup wrote:.....and Karmapa doesn't 'live with the Dalai Lama' Karmapa lives at Gyuto in Sidhbari...the Dalai Lama lives in McLeod Ganj, about half an hour away.
Half an hour with what mode of transport EXACTLY!? A whole half an hour or 28 minutes and some seconds? Hmmmm...? :tongue:
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Re: A third candidate

Postby conebeckham » Fri Feb 03, 2012 8:03 pm

It's India....so transport is by Rickshaw (nah, I don't think so).... Or Putt Putt? Or Jeep, with 26 other passengers, including six hanging off the back? Or maybe, by TaTA..

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Re: A third candidate

Postby Stewart » Fri Feb 03, 2012 9:17 pm

I said about half an hour Greg :smile: my point was Karmapa doesn't live with the Dalai Lama.

ps. I love in India too, too hot for me in summer though.
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Re: A third candidate

Postby conebeckham » Sat Feb 04, 2012 12:43 am

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Re: A third candidate

Postby YesheDron'May » Sat Feb 04, 2012 8:34 pm

Why would HH The Dali Lama live with the Karmapa the chinese chose , Ise'nt he a fake Karmapa ??????
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Re: A third candidate

Postby Josef » Sat Feb 04, 2012 8:36 pm

YesheDron'May wrote:Why would HH The Dali Lama live with the Karmapa the chinese chose , Ise'nt he a fake Karmapa ??????

The Chinese didnt choose him and he doensnt live with the Dalai Lama.
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Re: A third candidate

Postby Sherab Dorje » Sat Feb 04, 2012 8:50 pm

I reckon that people really need to kill the Karmapa that lives inside their head!
(apologies to the Situationist International)
It's the only way for them to actually see the Karmapa.
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Re: A third candidate

Postby Ösel » Sat Feb 04, 2012 9:27 pm

gregkavarnos wrote:I reckon that people really need to kill the Karmapa that lives inside their head!
(apologies to the Situationist International)
It's the only way for them to actually see the Karmapa.
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Re: A third candidate

Postby sherabpa » Sat Feb 25, 2012 10:19 am

The thing about this guy Dawa Sangpo is that he was born in 1977, four years before the H.H. 16th Karmapa died. This obviously disqualifies him from being a genuine candidate.
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Re: A third candidate

Postby pemachophel » Sat Feb 25, 2012 5:19 pm

The previous Dudjom Rinpoche, Jigdral Yeshe Dorje, was born several years before Dudjom Lingpa died. That didn't disqualify Him. Within the tulku system, this is a particular kind of tulku. Unfortunately, I don't remember the Tibetan name. Maybe someone else can supply it.
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Re: A third candidate

Postby Karinos » Sat Feb 25, 2012 8:54 pm

Emanation before the passing away of the predecessor (ma-dhey tulku)

Usually a reincarnation has to be someone’s taking rebirth as a human being after previously passing away. Ordinary sentient beings generally cannot manifest an emanation before death (ma-dhey tulku), but superior Bodhisattvas, who can manifest themselves in hundreds or thousands of bodies simultaneously, can manifest an emanation before death. Within the Tibetan system of recognizing Tulkus there are emanations who belong to the same mind-stream as the predecessor, emanations who are connected to others through the power of karma and prayers, and emanations who come as a result of blessings and appointment.


http://www.dalailama.com/messages/tibet ... -statement

btw - great reading from H.H. about Tulku system
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Re: A third candidate

Postby daelm » Tue Feb 28, 2012 10:26 am

sherabpa wrote:The thing about this guy Dawa Sangpo is that he was born in 1977, four years before the H.H. 16th Karmapa died. This obviously disqualifies him from being a genuine candidate.


not necessarily. tulkus have been appointed before under similar circumstances.


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