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Theravada "leader(s)"

Postby Admiral » Fri Aug 27, 2010 5:27 pm

Hi everybody :group:

I've read some Dalaï lama's books but the fact he's often referring to Mahayana sutras led me to think : "If Dalaï-Lama's the spiritual leader of Mahayana Buddhism (or at least Tibetan Buddhism), then are there any... leading figures in Theravada Buddhism?"

Or, if not, which "spiritual" well known masters would you recommend me to read? Like Bhikkhu Bodhi...

Thanks a lot :)

Metta,

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Re: Theravada "leader(s)"

Postby Fede » Fri Aug 27, 2010 5:42 pm

The Dala Lama is not the spiritual leader of Mahayana Buddhism. He is the Temporal Leader of Tibet, and the Spiritual Lama of one single Tibetan Buddhist School, The Gelupa. (The others being Kagyu, Shakya and Nyingma).
"Samsara: The human condition's heartbreaking inability to sustain contentment." Elizabeth Gilbert, 'Eat, Pray, Love'.

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Quieta movere magna merces videbatur. (Sallust, c.86-c.35 BC)
Translation: Just to stir things up seemed a good reward in itself. ;)

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Postby Fede » Fri Aug 27, 2010 6:57 pm

That's ok.

It's a common mistake.
but actually, in a similar vein I don't think there is any one specific outstanding authority figure in Theravada.
There are however, several extremely respected and prominent teachers.

AFAIK.....(And trust me, I am 'Mrs Ignorant' on this factor, and many others....)
"Samsara: The human condition's heartbreaking inability to sustain contentment." Elizabeth Gilbert, 'Eat, Pray, Love'.

Simplify: 17 into 1 WILL go: Mindfulness!

Quieta movere magna merces videbatur. (Sallust, c.86-c.35 BC)
Translation: Just to stir things up seemed a good reward in itself. ;)

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Postby Stiphan » Fri Aug 27, 2010 7:07 pm

IMHO the most prominent Theravada master might be Mahāsi Sayādaw - he was a questioner and final editor at the Sixth Buddhist Council.

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Postby Modus.Ponens » Fri Aug 27, 2010 7:39 pm

He turns his mind away from those phenomena, and having done so, inclines his mind to the property of deathlessness: 'This is peace, this is exquisite — the resolution of all fabrications; the relinquishment of all acquisitions; the ending of craving; dispassion; cessation; Unbinding.'
(Jhana Sutta - Thanissaro Bhikkhu translation)

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Postby David N. Snyder » Fri Aug 27, 2010 8:33 pm

I forget the exact sutta, but it is probably the parinibbana sutta (DN 16) where some monks ask the Buddha who will lead them after he is gone. The Buddha responds to let the Dhamma be your guide, your refuge.

I think Theravada has taken this (probably correctly) to mean that there should not be any one singular pope or centralised authority like a Vatican or Dalai Lama.
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Re: Theravada "leader(s)"

Postby Fede » Fri Aug 27, 2010 10:13 pm

:shock: well will ya look at that...........








I was right....... :jawdrop:



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"Samsara: The human condition's heartbreaking inability to sustain contentment." Elizabeth Gilbert, 'Eat, Pray, Love'.

Simplify: 17 into 1 WILL go: Mindfulness!

Quieta movere magna merces videbatur. (Sallust, c.86-c.35 BC)
Translation: Just to stir things up seemed a good reward in itself. ;)

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Re: Theravada "leader(s)"

Postby unspoken » Sat Aug 28, 2010 2:16 am

Buddhism biggest teacher are the Buddha.
We all are the brother and sisters in the dhamma.
The leader will and only will be 'ourself' as the attainment of Nibana will only be 'ourself'.
we are wise enough to know not necessary to have a leader to help us make decision because each and everyone of us knows what way we want to walk and head.

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Postby retrofuturist » Sat Aug 28, 2010 2:20 am

"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

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Re: Theravada "leader(s)"

Postby jcsuperstar » Sat Aug 28, 2010 3:08 am

สัพเพ สัตตา สุขีตา โหนตุ

the mountain may be heavy in and of itself, but if you're not trying to carry it it's not heavy to you- Ajaan Suwat

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Postby Paññāsikhara » Sat Aug 28, 2010 3:37 am

Haha! Preface most of the above posts with "in the eyes of English speaking Buddhists". Which are, as we know, a tiny minority of the Buddhist world.

Oh, and the Dalai Lama isn't even the head of the Gelug school of Tibetan Buddhism, actually.
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Re: Theravada "leader(s)"

Postby lojong1 » Sat Aug 28, 2010 3:52 am

Thus I have heard from Wiki: "The Dalai Lama is often thought to be the director of the Gelug School, but this position belongs officially to the Ganden Tripa, which is a temporary position appointed by the Dalai Lama who, in practice, exerts much influence."

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Postby jcsuperstar » Sat Aug 28, 2010 7:01 am

สัพเพ สัตตา สุขีตา โหนตุ

the mountain may be heavy in and of itself, but if you're not trying to carry it it's not heavy to you- Ajaan Suwat

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Re: Theravada "leader(s)"

Postby unspoken » Sun Aug 29, 2010 6:12 am

Buddhist Buddhist in the West,
Do not differentiate each of the rest,
If you are bounded by the views of directions,
what makes you free from affliction?

As a dog losing its way in the woods,
what leads it back to it's home?
Scents of happiness and joyful far around,
sounds of its mother howl,
will takes it back to it's "house".

Be the leader of your own karma, is the leader we wanted the most.

Sukhi Hotu


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