the great rebirth debate

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A Japanese man has been arrested on suspicion of writing a computer virus that destroys and replaces files on a victim PC with manga images of squid, octopuses and sea urchins. Masato Nakatsuji, 27, of Izumisano, Osaka Prefecture, was quoted as telling police: "I wanted to see how much my computer programming skills had improved since the last time I was arrested."

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A Japanese man has been arrested on suspicion of writing a computer virus that destroys and replaces files on a victim PC with manga images of squid, octopuses and sea urchins. Masato Nakatsuji, 27, of Izumisano, Osaka Prefecture, was quoted as telling police: "I wanted to see how much my computer programming skills had improved since the last time I was arrested."

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A Japanese man has been arrested on suspicion of writing a computer virus that destroys and replaces files on a victim PC with manga images of squid, octopuses and sea urchins. Masato Nakatsuji, 27, of Izumisano, Osaka Prefecture, was quoted as telling police: "I wanted to see how much my computer programming skills had improved since the last time I was arrested."

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Re: the great rebirth debate

Postby Popo » Tue Sep 14, 2010 5:36 pm

Theoretical approaches have their place and are, I suppose, essential but a theory must be tempered with reality.
-J. Nehru

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Postby 5heaps » Wed Sep 15, 2010 11:52 pm

A Japanese man has been arrested on suspicion of writing a computer virus that destroys and replaces files on a victim PC with manga images of squid, octopuses and sea urchins. Masato Nakatsuji, 27, of Izumisano, Osaka Prefecture, was quoted as telling police: "I wanted to see how much my computer programming skills had improved since the last time I was arrested."

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Re: the great rebirth debate

Postby Popo » Thu Sep 16, 2010 1:05 am

Theoretical approaches have their place and are, I suppose, essential but a theory must be tempered with reality.
-J. Nehru

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Re: the great rebirth debate

Postby Laurens » Sun Sep 19, 2010 2:00 pm

"For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring."

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Postby 5heaps » Sun Sep 19, 2010 3:07 pm

A Japanese man has been arrested on suspicion of writing a computer virus that destroys and replaces files on a victim PC with manga images of squid, octopuses and sea urchins. Masato Nakatsuji, 27, of Izumisano, Osaka Prefecture, was quoted as telling police: "I wanted to see how much my computer programming skills had improved since the last time I was arrested."

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Re: the great rebirth debate

Postby Laurens » Sun Sep 19, 2010 3:14 pm

"For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring."

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Re: the great rebirth debate

Postby 5heaps » Sun Sep 19, 2010 3:35 pm

A Japanese man has been arrested on suspicion of writing a computer virus that destroys and replaces files on a victim PC with manga images of squid, octopuses and sea urchins. Masato Nakatsuji, 27, of Izumisano, Osaka Prefecture, was quoted as telling police: "I wanted to see how much my computer programming skills had improved since the last time I was arrested."

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Re: the great rebirth debate

Postby Laurens » Sun Sep 19, 2010 3:48 pm

"For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring."

Carl Sagan

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Re: the great rebirth debate

Postby 5heaps » Sun Sep 19, 2010 4:17 pm

A Japanese man has been arrested on suspicion of writing a computer virus that destroys and replaces files on a victim PC with manga images of squid, octopuses and sea urchins. Masato Nakatsuji, 27, of Izumisano, Osaka Prefecture, was quoted as telling police: "I wanted to see how much my computer programming skills had improved since the last time I was arrested."

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Re: the great rebirth debate

Postby Laurens » Sun Sep 19, 2010 4:37 pm

"For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring."

Carl Sagan

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Re: the great rebirth debate

Postby beeblebrox » Sun Sep 19, 2010 5:01 pm

Consciousness = Name-and-Form.
Name-and-Form = Consciousness.

There, courtesy of the Buddha. It's really a nasty loop... and focusing on just one side (i.e., materialism, or basically, the name-and-form) doesn't really solve it (unless you're willing to base your life around this kind of delusion). It invariably leads to dukkha.

Why? Because there will always be people who would be more than able to logically assert the existence of the consciousness against you. And vice-versa... if you say that it's all consciousness, then there will always be people who're more than able to logically assert the existence of forms.

This is what causes the (endless) rebirths of discussions. The trick to this whole problem, really... is just to see through this loop (i.e., anatta).

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Re: the great rebirth debate

Postby 5heaps » Sun Sep 19, 2010 5:18 pm

A Japanese man has been arrested on suspicion of writing a computer virus that destroys and replaces files on a victim PC with manga images of squid, octopuses and sea urchins. Masato Nakatsuji, 27, of Izumisano, Osaka Prefecture, was quoted as telling police: "I wanted to see how much my computer programming skills had improved since the last time I was arrested."


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