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Quote from Stephen Hawking

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Ben
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Re: Quote from Stephen Hawking

Postby Ben » Fri Aug 27, 2010 12:30 pm

“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: Quote from Stephen Hawking

Postby octathlon » Fri Aug 27, 2010 12:47 pm

You posted a quote about predestination vs. free will on a Buddhism forum and a bunch of people commented on it. No insults, no bickering, just some interesting comments. But I guess we weren't supposed to do that! And we were supposed to know somehow that we were not to discuss the quote!, only perhaps post a smiley and a "haha", is that right? Maybe you can post a disclaimer next time: This thread must remain under my control. No philosophical commentary or personal views will be tolerated. No talking in the Lounge.

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Re: Quote from Stephen Hawking

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Re: Quote from Stephen Hawking

Postby bodom » Fri Aug 27, 2010 1:32 pm

To study is to know the texts,
To practice is to know your defilements,
To attain the goal is to know and let go.

- Ajahn Lee Dhammadharo


With mindfulness immersed in the body
well established, restrained
with regard to the six media of contact,
always centered, the monk
can know Unbinding for himself.

- Ud 3.5


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Re: Quote from Stephen Hawking

Postby tiltbillings » Fri Aug 27, 2010 2:42 pm

Huh?
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Re: Quote from Stephen Hawking

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Re: Quote from Stephen Hawking

Postby bodom » Fri Aug 27, 2010 6:52 pm

Anyone who has a firm conviction in the law of kamma will find no fault with hawkings quote. Nothing is predestined. Everyone has choice. There is free will.

Whats left to speculate or debate about?

Of course opinions vary and anyone is free to post whatever they would like. For myself I like to keep things simple and focus on the present and what apply's to my daily life and everyday practice.

For me theres no need to speculate on the "illusory sense of free will" or anything else. It is obvious we have free will at each and every moment.

Whats important to me is making good decisions, acting with right intention and creating less unwholesome kamma. Thats why I posted Hawkings quote. Not to start a debate over predestiny or free will. Hawkings quote summarized it nicely for me:

There is always a choice.

If anyone takes issue with this then they take issue with Buddhas central teaching.

Tilts signature summarizes it nicely as well:

Kamma is ones means for going beyond kamma.

:anjali:
To study is to know the texts,
To practice is to know your defilements,
To attain the goal is to know and let go.

- Ajahn Lee Dhammadharo


With mindfulness immersed in the body
well established, restrained
with regard to the six media of contact,
always centered, the monk
can know Unbinding for himself.

- Ud 3.5


https://www.dhammatalks.org/index.html
http://www.ajahnchah.org/


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