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the great vegetarian debate

Exploring Theravāda's connections to other paths. What can we learn from other traditions, religions and philosophies?
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Re: what's wrong with eating meat?

Postby pilgrim » Thu Aug 26, 2010 7:03 am

Arguments based on creating demand are weak. Just living in your house requires land clearing that inevitably requires killing, what to speak of eating vegetables clothing and all the other stuff one consumes just to stay alive.

Arguments on whether it is ok to be non-vegetarian or not have gone on for ages. Because it is such a grey area, the Buddha's advice on the issue is brilliant. One is responsible for one's own actions only, i.e not killing, not directing someone to kill and avoiding meat that one knows was killed for oneself. All other meat is permissible. There are consequences on health and environment, no doubt, but it is karmically neutral. So when if a person asks what's wrong with eating meat, it may be wrong for many reasons, but not for karmic or ethical reasons.

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Re: what's wrong with eating meat?

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Re: what's wrong with eating meat?

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Re: what's wrong with eating meat?

Postby acinteyyo » Thu Aug 26, 2010 9:03 am

Thag 1.20. Ajita - I do not fear death; nor do I long for life. I’ll lay down this body, aware and mindful.

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Re: what's wrong with eating meat?

Postby Ben » Thu Aug 26, 2010 9:20 am

“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: what's wrong with eating meat?

Postby pilgrim » Thu Aug 26, 2010 9:26 am

As Ven K Sri Dhammananda used to say, "What comes out of your mouth is a lot more important than what goes into it".

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Re: what's wrong with eating meat?

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Re: what's wrong with eating meat?

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Re: what's wrong with eating meat?

Postby Ben » Thu Aug 26, 2010 10:04 am

“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: what's wrong with eating meat?

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Re: what's wrong with eating meat?

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Re: what's wrong with eating meat?

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Re: what's wrong with eating meat?

Postby PeterB » Thu Aug 26, 2010 12:00 pm

Hear hear Fijinut... :clap: Even when they are not put off they are misled.
The majority of Theravada Buddhists are not vegetarian. Neither are the majority of Vajrayana students nor Zen practitioners. Outside of some Chinese schools it is only an issue at all for a minority.
And they are largely white and middle class and can afford to be connoisseurs of organic carrots.

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Re: what's wrong with eating meat?

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Re: what's wrong with eating meat?

Postby Vepacitta » Thu Aug 26, 2010 1:15 pm

Nothing wrong with eating meat. The Buddha ate meat. Vegetarianism in Buddhist culture seems to be big in Chinese schools - that's a Taoist influence, I believe.

Just don't go hunting meat for yourself - as recommended in Ted Nugen's "Kill and Grill Book"


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Re: what's wrong with eating meat?

Postby m0rl0ck » Thu Aug 26, 2010 1:31 pm

“The truth knocks on the door and you say, "Go away, I'm looking for the truth," and so it goes away. Puzzling.” ― Robert M. Pirsig

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Re: what's wrong with eating meat?

Postby PeterB » Thu Aug 26, 2010 1:37 pm

But that's no reason Morlock...or at least it might be a reason for you as an individual not to eat a cheeseburger. But when I used to eat cheeseburgers I felt fine.

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Re: what's wrong with eating meat?

Postby Prasadachitta » Thu Aug 26, 2010 1:38 pm

"Beautifully taught is the Lord's Dhamma, immediately apparent, timeless, of the nature of a personal invitation, progressive, to be attained by the wise, each for himself." Anguttara Nikaya V.332

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Re: what's wrong with eating meat?

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