Cosmic Tantra.

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Cosmic Tantra.

Postby Caz » Thu Feb 09, 2012 12:07 am

http://blog.tsemtulku.com/tsem-tulku-ri ... antra.html

Thought you guys might like this Tsem Rinpoche teaches in such a unique way :jumping:
Abandoning Dharma is, in the final analysis, disparaging the Hinayana because of the Mahayana; favoring the Hinayana on account of the Mahayana; playing off sutra against tantra; playing off the four classes of the tantras against each other; favoring one of the Tibetan schools—the Sakya, Gelug, Kagyu, or Nyingma—and disparaging the rest; and so on. In other words, we abandon Dharma any time we favor our own tenets and disparage the rest.

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Re: Cosmic Tantra.

Postby catmoon » Thu Feb 09, 2012 7:35 am

Nope, don't like it at all.
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Re: Cosmic Tantra.

Postby Caz » Thu Feb 09, 2012 11:37 am

Abandoning Dharma is, in the final analysis, disparaging the Hinayana because of the Mahayana; favoring the Hinayana on account of the Mahayana; playing off sutra against tantra; playing off the four classes of the tantras against each other; favoring one of the Tibetan schools—the Sakya, Gelug, Kagyu, or Nyingma—and disparaging the rest; and so on. In other words, we abandon Dharma any time we favor our own tenets and disparage the rest.

Liberation in the Palm of your hand~Kyabje Pabongkha Rinpoche.

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Re: Cosmic Tantra.

Postby catmoon » Thu Feb 09, 2012 6:23 pm

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Re: Cosmic Tantra.

Postby catmoon » Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:10 am

I'll get right ... on..... that....... zzzzzzzzz
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Re: Cosmic Tantra.

Postby Distorted » Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:34 am

Geez, this video was really good. I noticed a lot of his posts where on target with me, like if he knew me personally. :shock: Very cool, I will be reading more of his posts. Tough Love but not forgetting the love.

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Re: Cosmic Tantra.

Postby plwk » Mon Feb 13, 2012 4:05 am

Sometimes I wonder caz.... if this present time and generation is so want in merits and virtues that Dharma teachers have to prop up all kinds of dramatics before due attention can be gotten? Say if the same phrase/teaching is given on a plain book, would the response be a wow?

Sometime back in a class I attended, an Anila remarked...
Those were the days when lay people requested for the Dharma to be taught.
These days, the lay people need to be requested before they can be taught...


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Re: Cosmic Tantra.

Postby Caz » Mon Feb 13, 2012 10:47 am

Abandoning Dharma is, in the final analysis, disparaging the Hinayana because of the Mahayana; favoring the Hinayana on account of the Mahayana; playing off sutra against tantra; playing off the four classes of the tantras against each other; favoring one of the Tibetan schools—the Sakya, Gelug, Kagyu, or Nyingma—and disparaging the rest; and so on. In other words, we abandon Dharma any time we favor our own tenets and disparage the rest.

Liberation in the Palm of your hand~Kyabje Pabongkha Rinpoche.

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Re: Cosmic Tantra.

Postby Tewi » Mon Feb 13, 2012 11:19 am

I've seen him on You-Tube before. He's a very charismatic guy with a fascinating personal story. I guess his generation of lamas will have the duty of seeing Tibetan Buddhism through the passing of the last cohort to have been trained in traditional Tibet, and figuring out its new (maybe more global) direction.

This is the body incarnation. Has anybody heard from the speech and mind incarnations? (The Tsem mind tulku seems to be a layman--or was the last I heard--and I never knew the speech incarnation.)

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Re: Cosmic Tantra.

Postby Caz » Mon Feb 13, 2012 11:39 am

Abandoning Dharma is, in the final analysis, disparaging the Hinayana because of the Mahayana; favoring the Hinayana on account of the Mahayana; playing off sutra against tantra; playing off the four classes of the tantras against each other; favoring one of the Tibetan schools—the Sakya, Gelug, Kagyu, or Nyingma—and disparaging the rest; and so on. In other words, we abandon Dharma any time we favor our own tenets and disparage the rest.

Liberation in the Palm of your hand~Kyabje Pabongkha Rinpoche.

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Re: Cosmic Tantra.

Postby Tewi » Mon Feb 13, 2012 11:59 pm

Well, he sure looks like a monk to me as well. And he's obviously open about being a Tsem incarnation--look at the name he posts under.

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Re: Cosmic Tantra.

Postby Caz » Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:38 am

Abandoning Dharma is, in the final analysis, disparaging the Hinayana because of the Mahayana; favoring the Hinayana on account of the Mahayana; playing off sutra against tantra; playing off the four classes of the tantras against each other; favoring one of the Tibetan schools—the Sakya, Gelug, Kagyu, or Nyingma—and disparaging the rest; and so on. In other words, we abandon Dharma any time we favor our own tenets and disparage the rest.

Liberation in the Palm of your hand~Kyabje Pabongkha Rinpoche.

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Re: Cosmic Tantra.

Postby Tewi » Tue Feb 14, 2012 11:38 am

Oh, sorry! I misunderstood. Well, I knew the mind incarnation back in the 1980's, and later heard about their recognition from Zong Rinpoche. I remember that it was some kind of monastery tulku, and that the body incarnation was this gay Mongolian kid from New Jersey. (Bertolucci's film Little Buddha was based in part on their story.) I don't know what happened to the others, though, and was hoping someone here could enlighten me. Is this some kind of sensitive political issue, like the dueling Karmapas? Otherwise I guess I could just e-mail this guy.

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Re: Cosmic Tantra.

Postby Caz » Tue Feb 14, 2012 11:45 am

Abandoning Dharma is, in the final analysis, disparaging the Hinayana because of the Mahayana; favoring the Hinayana on account of the Mahayana; playing off sutra against tantra; playing off the four classes of the tantras against each other; favoring one of the Tibetan schools—the Sakya, Gelug, Kagyu, or Nyingma—and disparaging the rest; and so on. In other words, we abandon Dharma any time we favor our own tenets and disparage the rest.

Liberation in the Palm of your hand~Kyabje Pabongkha Rinpoche.

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Re: Cosmic Tantra.

Postby Distorted » Tue Feb 14, 2012 5:08 pm

He did say they kept on trying to contact him for that movie but I don't know what about.

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Re: Cosmic Tantra.

Postby Tewi » Tue Feb 14, 2012 11:48 pm

Now that I think about it, there is one issue that might have some political relevance. You have to understand that up to a point in the 1990's, a lot of mainstream Gelugpa worshipped a certain deity who is now verboten. (For all I know, I may have done so as well--I honestly don't remember what all rituals I did, and wouldn't necessarily have known what it was at the time.) Anyway, in retrospect, I think an oracle of this deity was consulted for all three of them. It was SOP at the time.

I can't find any mention of the other two on (body) Tsem Rinpoche's website (tsemtulku.org). This may be because they do not teach in public (that I know of--for all I know, one or both of them might be using some other dharma name by now) and /or out of the game completely. If so, I hope I have not invaded their privacy by asking about them. I personally do not believe in the practice of identifying tulkus--the whole thing is at best symbolic, and at worst a matter of political expedience. Not a few former tulkus have renounced their statuses, or even Buddhism as a whole. On the other hand, many of those so identified do grow into their roles and make everyone proud--chief among them the present Dalai Lama.

Looking over his website, I see that (body) Tsem Rinpoche is extremely interested in subjects like Bigfoot and UFO's. (I was too, at one time.) His group, Kechara, comes across as a bit intense--I'm afraid outsiders are likely to view it as a cult--but they are obviously very dedicated. Other than him, it seems to be all Chinese people. (I wonder how that happened.)

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