Understanding emptiness

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Re: Understanding emptiness

Postby minh-khong » Sat Feb 11, 2012 5:30 pm

I posted my paper on the "sister" forum, maybe this forum is more proper.
http://www.archive.org/details/A21stCen ... OnBuddhism
Abstract: This paper is an attempt to use today's science methodology to convey, in 21st century terms, Buddha's teachings especially on emptiness nature of all phenomena. Scientific model using fractal transformation for the law of universal causation commonly known as karma is introduced to explain rebirth, Buddhist six realms of existence, enlightenment concept and the emptiness nature of all phenomena.

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Re: Understanding emptiness

Postby gad rgyangs » Sat Feb 11, 2012 7:53 pm

minh-khong wrote:I posted my paper on the "sister" forum, maybe this forum is more proper.
http://www.archive.org/details/A21stCen ... OnBuddhism
Abstract: This paper is an attempt to use today's science methodology to convey, in 21st century terms, Buddha's teachings especially on emptiness nature of all phenomena. Scientific model using fractal transformation for the law of universal causation commonly known as karma is introduced to explain rebirth, Buddhist six realms of existence, enlightenment concept and the emptiness nature of all phenomena.

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I stopped after the first sentence "..science was in infantry stage" i will wait till its in cavalry stage at least.
Thoroughly tame your own mind.
This is (possibly) the teaching of Buddha.
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Re: Understanding emptiness

Postby yadave » Sat Feb 11, 2012 10:22 pm

5heaps wrote:
Konchog1 wrote:So, why do I label a car as car? Instead of a lion. I see it as a machine not a giant animal. Wouldn't that mean there is something from the car's own side to make it a car?

perhaps we can for the moment agree that there is something on the side of the object--but what is that thing? is it "lion" or "car" that is coming from the side of the object?

Wait, don't tell me ...............

..............................

Car!

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Re: Understanding emptiness

Postby asunthatneversets » Sat Feb 11, 2012 11:13 pm

yadave wrote:
5heaps wrote:
Konchog1 wrote:So, why do I label a car as car? Instead of a lion. I see it as a machine not a giant animal. Wouldn't that mean there is something from the car's own side to make it a car?

perhaps we can for the moment agree that there is something on the side of the object--but what is that thing? is it "lion" or "car" that is coming from the side of the object?

Wait, don't tell me ...............

..............................

Car!

Regards,
Dave.


No Dave, sorry... the correct answer would have been "a Blue 1986 Nissan 300zx Turbo with gray leather interior".... keep practicing :tongue:
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Re: Understanding emptiness

Postby minh-khong » Sat Feb 11, 2012 11:37 pm

gad rgyangs wrote:I stopped after the first sentence "..science was in infantry stage"
:shock:
Thanks for the feed-back, it has advanced to cavalry stage ;)
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Re: Understanding emptiness

Postby 5heaps » Sun Feb 12, 2012 2:07 pm

yadave wrote:
5heaps wrote:
Konchog1 wrote:So, why do I label a car as car? Instead of a lion. I see it as a machine not a giant animal. Wouldn't that mean there is something from the car's own side to make it a car?

perhaps we can for the moment agree that there is something on the side of the object--but what is that thing? is it "lion" or "car" that is coming from the side of the object?

..............................

Car!

if car exuded out of any one of the particles or the collection of them then when you had that particle or that collection you would necessarily have "car"... but it doesnt work like that at all.

usually people will say, ok, its not the external object itself which makes it a car, but rather, its my memory of it as a car that makes it a car.

in which case it must be pointed out, that there is nothing about each individual color and shape in the memory, nor a collection of colors and shapes in the memory which makes it a memory of a car

nevertheless, you can drive in cars and have memories of them....we are not invalidating cars, just dismissing mistaken notions of how they exist, and understanding how it is that they do exist (which, unfortunately, the Buddha claimed is something necessary to know if you desire to be highly rational [and beyond suffering])
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