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I notice that his pronunciation of Sanskrit is a lot closer to the original than most Tibetans (e.g. Vajra instead of "benzar"). Is he atypical in this way or maybe it's just my own limited exposure to lamas?

Also, is his Tibetan pronunciation is more-or-less standard? I think the pronunciation handbook published by SSI said that "ky", "gy" in standard pronunciation were more or less "g" + "y" combined together, but Rinpoche pronounces it like Hanyu Pinyin "j", and going through Tournadre's textbook with recordings, it's just like Rinpoche's pronunciation. However, according to the book "dzogchen" is pronounced with an audible "k" while Rinpoche seems to just pronounce it with a long vowel.
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Sherlock wrote:I notice that his pronunciation of Sanskrit is a lot closer to the original than most Tibetans (e.g. Vajra instead of "benzar"). Is he atypical in this way or maybe it's just my own limited exposure to lamas?
He studied Sanskrit at Derge, and also has taken a keen interest in languages his whole life.

His pronunciation is Derge dialect from East Tibet.
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Namdrol wrote:
Sherlock wrote:I notice that his pronunciation of Sanskrit is a lot closer to the original than most Tibetans (e.g. Vajra instead of "benzar"). Is he atypical in this way or maybe it's just my own limited exposure to lamas?
He studied Sanskrit at Derge, and also has taken a keen interest in languages his whole life.

His pronunciation is Derge dialect from East Tibet.
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mindyourmind wrote:
Namdrol wrote:
Sherlock wrote:I notice that his pronunciation of Sanskrit is a lot closer to the original than most Tibetans (e.g. Vajra instead of "benzar"). Is he atypical in this way or maybe it's just my own limited exposure to lamas?
He studied Sanskrit at Derge, and also has taken a keen interest in languages his whole life.

His pronunciation is Derge dialect from East Tibet.
...with a wonderful tinge of Italian thrown in there somewhere :namaste:

Yes, that is true.
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When I consider that Namkhai Norbu learned Italian and English in such a short time and has accomplished so much, it's extreeeemely impressive. I have heard some other Tibetan teachers trying to speak English and it is very hard to follow, even after being in America for several years. Some, I literally couldn't understand a single sentence.
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mindyourmind wrote:
Namdrol wrote:
Sherlock wrote:I notice that his pronunciation of Sanskrit is a lot closer to the original than most Tibetans (e.g. Vajra instead of "benzar"). Is he atypical in this way or maybe it's just my own limited exposure to lamas?
He studied Sanskrit at Derge, and also has taken a keen interest in languages his whole life.

His pronunciation is Derge dialect from East Tibet.
...with a wonderful tinge of Italian thrown in there somewhere :namaste:
More than a tinge, his Italian is flawless.

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padma norbu wrote:When I consider that Namkhai Norbu learned Italian and English in such a short time and has accomplished so much, it's extreeeemely impressive. I have heard some other Tibetan teachers trying to speak English and it is very hard to follow, even after being in America for several years. Some, I literally couldn't understand a single sentence.
Khandro Rinpoche is the only one I know that is speaking really great English. It for sure makes the message come through easier, she is a knockout.

/magnus
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"The principal practice is Guruyoga. But we need to understand that any secondary practice combined with Guruyoga becomes a principal practice." ChNNR (Teachings on Thun and Ganapuja)
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Yes, she is fantastic!! I heard about her through this forum and am blown away by her Youtubes.
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H.H. Sakya Trizin speaks English incredibly well.
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heart wrote:
padma norbu wrote:When I consider that Namkhai Norbu learned Italian and English in such a short time and has accomplished so much, it's extreeeemely impressive. I have heard some other Tibetan teachers trying to speak English and it is very hard to follow, even after being in America for several years. Some, I literally couldn't understand a single sentence.
Khandro Rinpoche is the only one I know that is speaking really great English. It for sure makes the message come through easier, she is a knockout.

/magnus
Khandro Rinpoche's is indeed excellent. As is Dzongsar Khyentse's english.

Mingyur Rinpoche also has very good english, only very rarely useing a translator for some complex words.
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