Climate Change: We're Doomed

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Climate Change: We're Doomed

Postby Indrajala » Wed Feb 08, 2012 1:09 pm

tad etat sarvajñānaṃ karuṇāmūlaṃ bodhicittahetukam upāyaparyavasānam iti |

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Re: Climate Change: We're Doomed

Postby Nemo » Wed Feb 08, 2012 3:36 pm

I don't know how old you are but I am not doomed. I won't live long enough to see the environmental collapse. Social collapse seems more likely in my lifetime.

The next generation is doomed. Ha Ha. Sorry we screwed you. BTW we loved the pensions, free education, unlimited healthcare and career opportunities you will never receive. Boomers Rule! :twothumbsup:

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Re: Climate Change: We're Doomed

Postby Indrajala » Wed Feb 08, 2012 3:42 pm

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Re: Climate Change: We're Doomed

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"Even if you practice only for an hour a day with faith and inspiration, good qualities will steadily increase. Regular practice makes it easy to transform your mind. From seeing only relative truth, you will eventually reach a profound certainty in the meaning of absolute truth."
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Re: Climate Change: We're Doomed

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"Even if you practice only for an hour a day with faith and inspiration, good qualities will steadily increase. Regular practice makes it easy to transform your mind. From seeing only relative truth, you will eventually reach a profound certainty in the meaning of absolute truth."
Kyabje Dilgo Khyentse Rinpoche.

"Only you can make your mind beautiful."
HH Chetsang Rinpoche

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Re: Climate Change: We're Doomed

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Re: Climate Change: We're Doomed

Postby Jesse » Thu Feb 09, 2012 2:09 am

It really is a sad truth, I hope the world will wise up as a whole before things get that bad, but I fear we will face much suffering before our collective self interest becomes synonymous with natures.

I remember a lecture I had listened to by Alan Watts along time ago; I had no idea what he was talking about then.

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Re: Climate Change: We're Doomed

Postby Nemo » Thu Feb 09, 2012 2:45 am

The irony is that the only way to save the environment now is to condemn most of the humans on the planet to death or dire poverty. You have to choose humans or the biosphere. There is no longer a middle ground. We passed the point of sustainable ecology decades ago. The boomers were very greedy and decided to be the last and richest generation before environmental collapse.

There is no reason to quit smoking once the cancer has spread so far it is incurable. We still have a few good years left. Maybe not a great time to have kids. If you do have some show them some of the wonders this beautiful planet created. You have to take them to the oceans soon. In as little as a decade there may not be much left to see.

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Re: Climate Change: We're Doomed

Postby Indrajala » Thu Feb 09, 2012 7:39 am

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Re: Climate Change: We're Doomed

Postby plwk » Thu Feb 09, 2012 2:51 pm

There's always Mars.... :toilet:

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Re: Climate Change: We're Doomed

Postby treehuggingoctopus » Thu Feb 09, 2012 4:13 pm

. . . there they saw a rock! But it wasn't a rock . . .

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Re: Climate Change: We're Doomed

Postby Nemo » Thu Feb 09, 2012 5:13 pm

The people who understand the problem don't have the fortitude to do what is needed so late in the game. The developing world will only do what is needed at gunpoint. We have no ethical authority to stop them from embracing industrialization. We couldn't even stop ourselves in the 1980's when all the science was perfectly clear that this would happen.

Energy efficiency, recycling, eating crappy grain based foods are all irrelevant when faced with the fact that in 2040 there will be 3 billion more people. It's over on a global scale. Time to find pockets of sustainability to retire. Keep the flame of culture and Dharma alive for the dark times ahead. If the Kalachakra prophecies are true even that is a waste of time. Just practice and don't worry about other stuff. Pure food and eco snobbery are a total waste of precious time.

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Re: Climate Change: We're Doomed

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Re: Climate Change: We're Doomed

Postby Indrajala » Thu Feb 09, 2012 5:54 pm

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Re: Climate Change: We're Doomed

Postby Buddhist Prime » Tue Mar 27, 2012 6:13 am

Either attain Enlightenment or prepare now.

I have a SHTF list ready:


I've got everything I ever need, so for the mean time until SHTF,
I will work on attaining enlightenment.
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Re: Climate Change: We're Doomed

Postby Dave The Seeker » Tue Mar 27, 2012 12:13 pm

out of curiosity I read your list.
An interesting list for sure, but why work on obtaining Enlightenment when you have items listed for the killing of not just living beings, but other people, as your comments for the items state.
In doing this, by self defense or for any other means, you're breaking the first precept.
And in effect, destroying all the works you seem to be trying to do helping people understand the Dharma.


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Re: Climate Change: We're Doomed

Postby Sara H » Wed Oct 10, 2012 5:56 am

"Life is full of suffering. AND Life is full of the Eternal
IT IS OUR CHOICE
We can stand in our shadow, and wallow in the darkness,
OR
We can turn around.
It is OUR choice." -Rev. Basil Singer

" ...out of fear, even the good harm one another. " -Rev. Dazui MacPhillamy

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Re: Climate Change: We're Doomed

Postby Dan74 » Wed Oct 10, 2012 6:29 am

I am not sure why people are so fatalistic over this issue.

Humankind has a knack for being very resourceful when the proverbial sh*t hits the fan. The extent and severity of the warming are still fraught with a great deal of uncertainty though yes, as the evidence stands, it doesn't look great at all. But it doesn't look like the end, either. Particularly for most of us in the 1st World. Shame for the Bangladeshis, for the Islanders who will lose their land and culture, for the many species that will be driven to extinction, but humankind as a whole will make it. Might even be the thing we need to bring us together, working together for the benefit of the entire planet. There is going to be a silver lining in it all, I suspect.

Sorry to spoil the rain with a bit of sunshine, folks... but of course you're not going to believe me anyway! ;)

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Re: Climate Change: We're Doomed

Postby Sara H » Wed Oct 10, 2012 6:39 am

"Life is full of suffering. AND Life is full of the Eternal
IT IS OUR CHOICE
We can stand in our shadow, and wallow in the darkness,
OR
We can turn around.
It is OUR choice." -Rev. Basil Singer

" ...out of fear, even the good harm one another. " -Rev. Dazui MacPhillamy


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