Shobogenzo & Commentary

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Shobogenzo & Commentary

Postby mint » Wed Jan 11, 2012 4:26 pm

Looking for the best English translation of the Shobogenzo and the best commentary.

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Re: Shobogenzo & Commentary

Postby Astus » Wed Jan 11, 2012 4:34 pm

I think those translations on the Soto Zen Text Project page are the best in English. (However, for some reason the website seems to be hidden in the last few weeks.)
1 Myriad dharmas are only mind.
Mind is unobtainable.
What is there to seek?

2 If the Buddha-Nature is seen,
there will be no seeing of a nature in any thing.

3 Neither cultivation nor seated meditation —
this is the pure Chan of Tathagata.

4 With sudden enlightenment to Tathagata Chan,
the six paramitas and myriad means
are complete within that essence.


1 Huangbo, T2012Ap381c1 2 Nirvana Sutra, T374p521b3; tr. Yamamoto 3 Mazu, X1321p3b23; tr. J. Jia 4 Yongjia, T2014p395c14; tr. from "The Sword of Wisdom"

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Re: Shobogenzo & Commentary

Postby White Lotus » Wed Feb 08, 2012 4:21 pm

i have ''moon in a dewdrop'' which contains popular excerpts from the shobogenzo. not too dry. prefer the shinji shobogenzo of koans, purportedly compiled by Dogen. a fun read.

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Re: Shobogenzo & Commentary

Postby Nicholas Weeks » Wed Feb 08, 2012 6:11 pm

This translation from BDK is well-respected. There are four digital volumes and also four hardcover books available. The digital PDF version is free, the books are $30 each.

http://www.bdkamerica.org/default.aspx?MPID=81
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Re: Shobogenzo & Commentary

Postby Sara H » Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:42 am

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"Life is full of suffering. AND Life is full of the Eternal
IT IS OUR CHOICE
We can stand in our shadow, and wallow in the darkness,
OR
We can turn around.
It is OUR choice." -Rev. Basil Singer

" ...out of fear, even the good harm one another. " -Rev. Dazui MacPhillamy

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Re: Shobogenzo & Commentary

Postby Sara H » Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:42 am

I love Dogen.
I've always found him to have a great sense of humor as well as being deeply insightful.

Rev. Hubert Nearman (Dr. Mark. J. Nearman) of Shasta Abbey spent many years translating the Shōbōgenzō, with great care.

Shasta Abbey offer's it for free as a PDF download, or as individual chapters, also available for PDF download.

For a good commentary of many of the chapters, I recommend the Roar of the Tigress; The Oral Teachings of Reverend Master Jiyu-Kennett: Western Woman and Zen Master,Volume Two "Zen for Spiritual Adults; Lectures Inspired by the Shobogenzo by Ehei Dogen"

Both are available for free PDF download.

http://www.shastaabbey.org/teachings-publications.html

You can also find hard copy's of The Roar of the Tigress Volume II online on various online retailers, as well as an earlier hard copy of volume 1 of the Shōbōgenzō translated Rev. Nearman.


I hope you enjoy,
In gasshō,
Sara H
"Life is full of suffering. AND Life is full of the Eternal
IT IS OUR CHOICE
We can stand in our shadow, and wallow in the darkness,
OR
We can turn around.
It is OUR choice." -Rev. Basil Singer

" ...out of fear, even the good harm one another. " -Rev. Dazui MacPhillamy


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