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Internal Dialogue

General discussion of issues related to Theravada Meditation, e.g. meditation postures, developing a regular sitting practice, skillfully relating to difficulties and hindrances, etc.
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Re: Internal Dialogue

Postby jcsuperstar » Mon Aug 16, 2010 10:41 am

i don't know about balancing mindfulness and concentration but every teacher that i can think of makes it clear that there is always at least some mindfulness needed for concentration and concentration needed for mindfulness the two are never mutually exclusive practices.
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Re: Internal Dialogue

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Re: Internal Dialogue

Postby mikenz66 » Mon Aug 16, 2010 11:16 am

Thanks for clarifying that is was mindfulness you were referring to, not insight!!

However, the usual balance I'm familiar with is concentration vs energy. You can't have too much mindfulness according to the paradigm that the Mahasi teachers follow, and the commentaries. See the book I referenced, for example, or the Visuddhimagga IV 45-49

Bhante G teaches a different approach. Nothing wrong with that, of course, different teachers use different ways of guiding their students.

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Re: Internal Dialogue

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Re: Internal Dialogue

Postby 5heaps » Mon Aug 16, 2010 3:44 pm

A Japanese man has been arrested on suspicion of writing a computer virus that destroys and replaces files on a victim PC with manga images of squid, octopuses and sea urchins. Masato Nakatsuji, 27, of Izumisano, Osaka Prefecture, was quoted as telling police: "I wanted to see how much my computer programming skills had improved since the last time I was arrested."

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Re: Internal Dialogue

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Re: Internal Dialogue

Postby octathlon » Mon Aug 16, 2010 4:46 pm

That's interesting, Freawaru. :smile: I often have my regular thoughts going on "simultaneously" with the music.
In many ways the mental music works really well as a meditation object, maybe because it's so reliable like the breath (in those of us who have the problem really bad anyway).
:rolleye:
side note: Oh no, I notice from my previous post that I put the apostrophe in "it's" when I meant the possessive "its". I knew that would start happening one of these days, now that it seems to have become the standard. :D

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Re: Internal Dialogue

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Re: Internal Dialogue

Postby 5heaps » Tue Aug 17, 2010 3:58 am

A Japanese man has been arrested on suspicion of writing a computer virus that destroys and replaces files on a victim PC with manga images of squid, octopuses and sea urchins. Masato Nakatsuji, 27, of Izumisano, Osaka Prefecture, was quoted as telling police: "I wanted to see how much my computer programming skills had improved since the last time I was arrested."

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Re: Internal Dialogue

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Re: Internal Dialogue

Postby 5heaps » Tue Aug 17, 2010 5:51 pm

A Japanese man has been arrested on suspicion of writing a computer virus that destroys and replaces files on a victim PC with manga images of squid, octopuses and sea urchins. Masato Nakatsuji, 27, of Izumisano, Osaka Prefecture, was quoted as telling police: "I wanted to see how much my computer programming skills had improved since the last time I was arrested."

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Re: Internal Dialogue

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A Japanese man has been arrested on suspicion of writing a computer virus that destroys and replaces files on a victim PC with manga images of squid, octopuses and sea urchins. Masato Nakatsuji, 27, of Izumisano, Osaka Prefecture, was quoted as telling police: "I wanted to see how much my computer programming skills had improved since the last time I was arrested."

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Re: Internal Dialogue

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Re: Internal Dialogue

Postby Vepacitta » Fri Aug 20, 2010 1:29 pm

Recalling one riff of any Led Zeppelin tune will blast out any mental music. And for some reason - LZ doesn't 'stick'. At least for moi. I've been using that for years to let go of any mind music. This may sound flippant, but I'm deadly serious.

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Re: Internal Dialogue

Postby 5heaps » Fri Aug 27, 2010 8:20 pm

A Japanese man has been arrested on suspicion of writing a computer virus that destroys and replaces files on a victim PC with manga images of squid, octopuses and sea urchins. Masato Nakatsuji, 27, of Izumisano, Osaka Prefecture, was quoted as telling police: "I wanted to see how much my computer programming skills had improved since the last time I was arrested."


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