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Re: self

Postby Shonin » Mon Aug 09, 2010 5:57 pm

Well said, I agree. It's clear from the suttas that the Buddha did teach a rational or 'intellectual' aspect to Non-self - as a way of abandoning unhelpful beliefs and tendencies. This is not merely philosphising or thinking for it's own sake, but challenging beliefs which are actually knots of attachment - thus it is directed at the way we experience life.

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Re: self

Postby PeterB » Mon Aug 09, 2010 6:04 pm

The Buddha did not teach self or non self at all. At a number of points in the Suttas he says that he doesnt.
He taught anatta. Which is not a thing, to be experienced. It is to be realised. And it is one mark of sentient existence together with Dukkha and Anicca. Anatta is not a stand alone goal of any kind. It is what is.

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Re: self

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Re: self

Postby 5heaps » Tue Aug 10, 2010 5:25 am

A Japanese man has been arrested on suspicion of writing a computer virus that destroys and replaces files on a victim PC with manga images of squid, octopuses and sea urchins. Masato Nakatsuji, 27, of Izumisano, Osaka Prefecture, was quoted as telling police: "I wanted to see how much my computer programming skills had improved since the last time I was arrested."

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Re: self

Postby jajas » Wed Aug 11, 2010 5:35 am

thank you all.
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Re: self

Postby jcsuperstar » Wed Aug 11, 2010 8:41 am

an interesting thought (maybe)

most religions and people are quite easily able to see the body as not self, it's this thing that changes over time, and we have very little control over it. however most people will take the mind to be the self thinking "ahh the mind, the mind i can control". i cant remember which sutta it is in however, but the Buddha actually says it would be more wise to see the body as the self than the mind as the self (even though both ideas are wrong), since the body is seemingly solid, changes slowly, seems like a stable thing unlike the mind which is constantly changing from one thing to the next leaving us with pretty much no control over it, one second we're sad, the next bored, someone drives by and splashes us with mud and now were mad etc. did we control this? did we say "hey i think it's time to be depressed, i haven't felt like crap in awhile"? most of us will say no. this is an aspect of not self and if we're paying attention pretty easy to spot, however most of the time we are just carried along mad sad happy horny depressed grumpy whatever just circling around thinking we're in control.
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Re: self

Postby dhamma_spoon » Sat Aug 14, 2010 6:01 pm

Hi, all -

I hope my thought below does not sound too sarcastic to you.

A weight-loss ad reads : 'How to stop eating, once and for all?"
It doesn't make sense to educate an overweight person : 'Who eats? There is no one eating.'
How would such empty "no-self" philosophy help a fat person who wants to reduce badly?
No, it wouldn't. :cookoo:

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Re: self

Postby PeterB » Mon Aug 16, 2010 7:09 am

A vital question imo thereductor.

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Re: self

Postby 5heaps » Mon Aug 16, 2010 3:02 pm

A Japanese man has been arrested on suspicion of writing a computer virus that destroys and replaces files on a victim PC with manga images of squid, octopuses and sea urchins. Masato Nakatsuji, 27, of Izumisano, Osaka Prefecture, was quoted as telling police: "I wanted to see how much my computer programming skills had improved since the last time I was arrested."

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Re: self

Postby oxen » Tue Aug 17, 2010 1:42 am

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Re: self

Postby Vepacitta » Tue Aug 17, 2010 3:51 am

Nice, pithy, practical advice Oxen!

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Re: self

Postby 5heaps » Thu Aug 19, 2010 5:57 am

A Japanese man has been arrested on suspicion of writing a computer virus that destroys and replaces files on a victim PC with manga images of squid, octopuses and sea urchins. Masato Nakatsuji, 27, of Izumisano, Osaka Prefecture, was quoted as telling police: "I wanted to see how much my computer programming skills had improved since the last time I was arrested."


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