formless meditations

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klqv
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formless meditations

Postby klqv » Thu Feb 02, 2012 9:27 pm

copied and pasted from another board

Wikipedia says
In the fourth rupajhana, there is already Upekkha, equanimity and Ekkagata, concentration, but the mind is still focused on a "material" object, as any color.,. In the fifth jhana, the meditator discovers that there is no object, but only an infinite space, which is empty

I get the idea of space without anything in it [durrr], but I don't think I believe that we can be conscious of anything [espeially space!] without seeing what might be called a colour. I can't get my head around space that has no lininjg... I am really just posting to make sure that I haven't misunderstood and that the 5th jhana sees nothing??



Not darkness but no visual consciousness???

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Re: formless meditations

Postby catmoon » Thu Feb 02, 2012 10:33 pm

What you need is someone who has actually entered the formless jhanas. Don't put too much weight on Wiki unless you can verify the sources.
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