Which is the biggest teaching?

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Re: Which is the biggest teaching?

Postby Nicholas Weeks » Wed Feb 01, 2012 5:57 pm

A bodhisattva does not become weary of evil beings nor does he commit the error of bringing forth thoughts inclined to reject them and cast them aside. Avatamsaka Sutra, ch. 25

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Re: Which is the biggest teaching?

Postby Astus » Wed Feb 01, 2012 9:44 pm

Myriad dharmas are only mind.
Mind is unobtainable.
What is there to seek?

If the Buddha-Nature is seen,
there will be no seeing of a nature in any thing.

Neither cultivation nor seated meditation —
this is the pure Chan of Tathagata.

With sudden enlightenment to Tathagata Chan,
the six paramitas and myriad means
are complete within that essence.



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Re: Which is the biggest teaching?

Postby Nicholas Weeks » Wed Feb 01, 2012 11:56 pm

A bodhisattva does not become weary of evil beings nor does he commit the error of bringing forth thoughts inclined to reject them and cast them aside. Avatamsaka Sutra, ch. 25

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Re: Which is the biggest teaching?

Postby catmoon » Thu Feb 02, 2012 10:38 pm

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Re: Which is the biggest teaching?

Postby Grigoris » Sat Feb 04, 2012 8:39 pm

"My religion is not deceiving myself."
Jetsun Milarepa 1052-1135 CE

"Butchers, prostitutes, those guilty of the five most heinous crimes, outcasts, the underprivileged: all are utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss."
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Re: Which is the biggest teaching?

Postby Astus » Sat Feb 04, 2012 10:59 pm

I specifically said "study the Dharma in depth", and I really meant study. There are of course many practices that does not require one to know anything about the teachings, or only the bare essentials related to that specific practice. It is no coincidence that devotional methods are what generally taught to the masses, because it is something easy to follow. And I'm not saying here that such practices are pointless or misguided. There are also many stories where people who followed simple devotional methods displayed miraculous things in their lives or even after their deaths. But if we consider those who transmitted the teachings to the next generation and had long term influence within a school or an area, they were people of great intelligence and solid education, and usually advantageous social background. Of course, realisation does not require studying the scriptures, nor does it require practising meditation, nevertheless, besides legendary saints, outstanding teachers always had both knowledge and experience. And that includes even Pure Land teachers.
Myriad dharmas are only mind.
Mind is unobtainable.
What is there to seek?

If the Buddha-Nature is seen,
there will be no seeing of a nature in any thing.

Neither cultivation nor seated meditation —
this is the pure Chan of Tathagata.

With sudden enlightenment to Tathagata Chan,
the six paramitas and myriad means
are complete within that essence.



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Re: Which is the biggest teaching?

Postby catmoon » Sat Feb 04, 2012 11:07 pm

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Re: Which is the biggest teaching?

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"My religion is not deceiving myself."
Jetsun Milarepa 1052-1135 CE

"Butchers, prostitutes, those guilty of the five most heinous crimes, outcasts, the underprivileged: all are utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss."
The Supreme Source - The Kunjed Gyalpo
The Fundamental Tantra of Dzogchen Semde

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Re: Which is the biggest teaching?

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"My religion is not deceiving myself."
Jetsun Milarepa 1052-1135 CE

"Butchers, prostitutes, those guilty of the five most heinous crimes, outcasts, the underprivileged: all are utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss."
The Supreme Source - The Kunjed Gyalpo
The Fundamental Tantra of Dzogchen Semde

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Re: Which is the biggest teaching?

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Jetsun Milarepa 1052-1135 CE

"Butchers, prostitutes, those guilty of the five most heinous crimes, outcasts, the underprivileged: all are utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss."
The Supreme Source - The Kunjed Gyalpo
The Fundamental Tantra of Dzogchen Semde

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Re: Which is the biggest teaching?

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Re: Which is the biggest teaching?

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"My religion is not deceiving myself."
Jetsun Milarepa 1052-1135 CE

"Butchers, prostitutes, those guilty of the five most heinous crimes, outcasts, the underprivileged: all are utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss."
The Supreme Source - The Kunjed Gyalpo
The Fundamental Tantra of Dzogchen Semde

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Re: Which is the biggest teaching?

Postby muni » Fri Feb 10, 2012 12:34 pm

biggest? The releasing one liberates. Liberating reveals the process of release!
Holding on apprehended concepts not.


"Guarding knowledge is not a good way to understand. Understanding means to throw away your knowledge. You have to be able to transcend your knowledge the way people climb a ladder. If you are on the fifth step of a ladder and think that you are very high, there is no hope for you to climb to the sixth. The technique is to release. The Buddhist way of understanding is always letting go of our views and knowledge in order to transcend". Thich Nhat Hanh.

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Re: Which is the biggest teaching?

Postby Dave The Seeker » Sat Feb 11, 2012 1:14 pm

Everyday problems teach us to have a realistic attitude.
They teach us that life is what life is; flawed.
Yet with tremendous potential for joy and fulfillment.
~Lama Surya Das~

If your path teaches you to act and exert yourself correctly and leads to spiritual realizations such as love, compassion and wisdom then obviously it's worthwhile.
~Lama Thubten Yeshe~

One whose mind is freed does not argue with anyone, he does not dispute with anyone. He makes use of the conventional terms of the world without clinging to them
~The Buddha~

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Re: Which is the biggest teaching?

Postby Aura » Mon Feb 27, 2012 5:11 am

The biggest teaching
is always the teaching
that one truly has not yet learned!

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Re: Which is the biggest teaching?

Postby Quiet Heart » Mon Feb 27, 2012 8:28 am

:smile:
If you mean "What is the best teaching?"", here's a story dealing with that idea.

Once a rich man had to go on a long trip leaving his family alone while he was gone. Being worried about his family while he was gone, he asked his servant to take special care of their health while he was away. His servant promised hin he would do that.
After a few months, as the rich man was coming home, he saw his servant running down the road toward him.
"Master", his servant said, "I am very sorry, but I have failed your trust. Some kind of a fever has afected your family. I fear they have all gone crazy with that fever."
"What is the effects of this strange fever?', the rich man asked.
"Well", said the servant, "each person in your family seems to be affected differently. Your wife for example. thinks only of jewels and gold. All day she counts her gold coins again and again. Your eldest daughter, on the other hand, dreams only of romance...she thinks only of love all day. Your children only want to play with their toys all day...they will not go to school and study their lessons. Each person in your house seems to be affected differently by this strange fever."
"But have you had the doctor there?", the rich man asked.
"Yes, I have", said the servant, "and the doctor has said it is all the same fever, just affecting them all differently. The doctor gave me medicine to give to your family....but they will not take it to cure themselves."
"Then let me see what I can do", said the rich man.
So when he arrived home, he first took the medicine to his wife. Knowing she was obsessed with gold, he told her that the medicine would make her rich if she took it. She took the medicine, and soon was cured.
Then he went to his eldest daughter, who thought only of love. He told her that the medicine would bring her true love. She took it, and she was also cured.
In the same way he cured his children by telling them that the nedicine was like a toy that they would enjoy playing with.
When they were all cured his family thanked him for bringing them that particular medicine that was made exactly for them...to cure their particular fever.
The rich man never told them his secret...that the medicine each one took was exacttly the same medcine...and only because their perception was wrong due to their fever...did they believe that each medicine was different and specifically designed for them.
Of course, once they took that medicine, no mater for whatever reason they took it, they lost their fever...and then they saw clearly.

And that is the story of the "best teaching".
Shame on you Shakyamuni for setting the precedent of leaving home.
Did you think it was not there--
in your wife's lovely face
in your baby's laughter?
Did you think you had to go elsewhere (simply) to find it?
from - Judyth Collin
The Layman's Lament
From What Book, 1998, p. 52
Edited by Gary Gach

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