himalayanspirit wrote:So does that imply that Ven. Hsu Yun's attainments were exaggerated or even false?
No, I don't think that anyone is arguing here that his attainments were exaggerated or even false.
But, some other people have claimed more status within Chinese Buddhist circles than is appropriate, or than he himself ever claimed.
Note that positions such as "head of such-and-such school (sic)" are not necessarily spiritual attainments as such.
I personally consider him the top most Buddhist of out time, even exceeding many politically famous Tibetan Buddhists - solely based on spiritual attainments. Of course, living upto the age of 120 and practicing Buddha dharma for hundred years is no joke and this anecdote about his compassion reinforces the validity of his sacredness.
Sure, and I think that pretty much everyone posting on this thread would agree.
(Though, as pointed out above, I don't see any need to compare him to other teachers in this regard.)
But I do not mind being corrected on this judgment of mine; after all, it is more based on personal assessment through reading his bio and works, rather than understanding the direct nature of his attainments.
This mind-to-mind lineage can be scoffed at, but there are such lineages. Anyway, whether there are or were 'schools' - 'lineages' - 'teachings - groups - temples etc., Master Hsu Yun wrote a letter to Master Hua that named him as Patriarch in one of the Ch'an branches. I do not read Chinese and cannot find it now, it is somewhere in print and online. So Master Hsu Yun had some understanding of a Ch'an lineage, whether recognized by everybody or nobody, it was known by him.
The Elder Master Hsu Yun saw that the Master was an outstanding individual in Buddhism and transmitted the Dharma lineage to him, giving him the Dharma name Hsuan Hua and making him the Ninth Patriarch of the Wei Yang Sect, the forty-fifth generation since the First Patriarch Mahakashyapa.
I am not sure anyone is scoffing at the Chan lineage here.
To further clarify earlier points, in general, in 20th CTY Chinese Buddhism, Ven. Yin Guang 印光大師 is usually considered as perhaps the foremost Pureland leader; and Ven. Hong Yi 弘一大師 is usually considered the foremost Vinaya practitioner and teacher (note, though, that Ven. Hong Yi's meditation practice was also Pureland). Though these are "in general", and since there is no formal recognition of "heads" of these "schools", then others can make similar claims as they like, and are basically free to do so.