Combining Ayurvedic/Tibetan Medicine and Herbs & Supplements

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Combining Ayurvedic/Tibetan Medicine and Herbs & Supplements

Postby Lhug-Pa » Wed Jan 18, 2012 6:01 pm

Some relevant websites:

Siddhienergetics, Jcrow or Jcrows, and Shangshungstore (Italy).


Out of the following medicines...:

Chyawanprash or Chyavanaprasha, Semde or Sems-dBe or Sems-bDe, Shilajit, Triphala, Sorig, Agar or Agar 35, Purification Medicine Treatment, Bimala or Vimala, Jing Builder, Tulsi, Ashwagandha, Pippali, Vacha, Dutsi or Dhutse, Chulen OR Chudlen, and Rinchen.

Which ones should definitely not be taken at the same time, if any?


Some Rinchen, and Precious Pills such as various Dhutse and Chulen, should be accompanied with a specific method (there's a thread about this here somewhere).

I'd like to try Chyawanprash, with Semde in the morning, Shilajit in the late afternoon, and Bimala an hour before bed.

Also, are there any medicines here that can be taken during pregnancy?

Last question for now, are there any herbs or medicines, or websites, not listed here that are of similar importance?

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

As a side-note, here are some supplements for energy, libido, calm, and focus, that I've jotted down over time that are not Ayurvedic or Tibetan, that may be useful:

Maca, Longifolia, Safed Musli, Pygeum, Saw Palmetto, Nettle Root, Heal All & Chrysanthemum Combo, Strong Man Bao, Arginine, Tyrosine, natural Iodine (such as Iodoral), B-5/Pantothetic Acid, Beta Alanine, Natto-K, Schizandra Berry, Catuaba, Damiana, Passiflora Incarnata, and Lypo-spheric Vitamin C (best taken with tomato or orange juice for additional bioflavanoid absorption).

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Postby Lhug-Pa » Thu Jan 19, 2012 2:21 pm

For Chyawanprash/Chyavanaprasha, Banyan, Vadik, Organic India, and Himalayan Institute brands all look promising. Or if on a budget, Dabur seems to be classic, yet inexpensive.

As for my questions, I'm not too worried. The combination mentioned above should be fine: Semde, Shilajit, and Vimala. Although in reading the thread here about Shilajit, it seems that it might be cooling, which wouldnt be good for Tummo practice; although it was also said that Shilajit could have a warming after-digestion effect. Who knows. If doing Tummo practice, then maybe replace Shilajit with Jing Builder. :yinyang:

And I think it's probably safe to say that none of the medicines from the first list (and most from the second list) above are worth risking for a woman to take during pregnancy.

Anyway, any suggestions for additional websites, or medicines, herbs, or supplements not mentioned above? If anything, we can have this be an edumacational resource thread. :reading:

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Postby Nemo » Thu Jan 19, 2012 4:37 pm

Where does Shilajit come from now? It is a completely different colour than it was years ago.

Did Nagarjuna leave any of his recipes for mercury medicines? I just read about his alchemical practices last night. Perhaps we should dig up his old recipes for turning iron into gold to support the Dharma.

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Postby Lhug-Pa » Fri Jan 20, 2012 10:29 pm

In reading , it looks like Shilajit is more-or-less neutral temperature-wise, yet maybe in the end leaning a little towards warming.

As for herbs during pregnancy, I know that some are considered safe (like the "Yogi" brand tea called Mother-to-Be); but if we don't know for sure about a particular herb or herbs, then yeah better to err on the safe side and not administer them.
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Postby Nemo » Sun Jan 22, 2012 3:43 am

Black mercury is with calcined copper. They are old medicines only meant to be taken when you can live a yogi lifestyle with no distractions. They are as profound as they are dangerous. To live a normal life and take them would kill you. Simply becoming angry will break the bonds on the mercury flooding your body with poison. But if you are sick and unable to recover there is no greater tonic than properly prepared alchemical rasayanas IMO. The preparation involves mantras, initiations and sincere worship. If someone merely followed the recipe you would be buying poison.

I must have taken 4 or 5 times the "lethal" dose and the only side effect was mild excessive heat. That is a signal that you need to stop the cycle of medicine. In the weeks that followed I gained about 20 pounds, no longer looked like a chemo patient, increased my stamina and had better meditative concentration. This effect was permanent. Though the prayers of a good Lama played a big part in that as well.

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Postby Nemo » Sun Jan 22, 2012 2:58 pm

I wish you could edit your posts longer.

I should add that I did two cycles a year apart and never felt the need to do it again. I did do a blood test for mercury levels. Though detected they were not worrisome. I took some ground pink coral anyway. Which has been used for millenia to detox heavy metals in Ayur Veda. I would reccommend it if you go on serious retreat. I find black mercury especially brightens the mind and improves memory. It strengthens many relative meditative states. A very miraculous medicine IMO. The red brings back youth and vitality, but is more heating.

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Re: Combining Ayurvedic/Tibetan Medicine and Herbs & Supplements

Postby Lhug-Pa » Sun Feb 12, 2012 11:53 pm

Any thoughts on Amrita Meditation Water?

http://www.siddhienergetics.com/product ... tion-water

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Postby padma norbu » Fri Feb 17, 2012 3:31 pm

I absolutely love damiana tea and was a bit bummed when Alvita stopped making it, but I've found another brand through the internet.

What is strange about damiana to me is that it:

- increases libido
- relieves anxiety
- relieves depression
- stimulates digestion
- suppresses hunger

among other things, but just these ones alone seem a little almost contradictory. Gets you horny AND relieves anxiety? Stimulates digestion AND suppresses hunger? I wonder if it's warming or cooling overall...

Anyway, I started drinking this when I felt like I could use a glass of wine and have found it to be the perfect substitute. I think because alcohol craving is related to blood sugar, anxiety, depression and a desire to consume, damiana turns off all these switches with 1 cup. Amazing, really. I have found it more useful than any Tibetan medicine (I've only tried Agar-35 and Happiness of Mind) and many other supplements such as Niacin, Kava, St. John's Wort, Valerian Root, etc. which for the most part did nothing.

1 cup of damiana tea in the morning and 1 cup at night... strangely relaxing and energizing at the same time. Should be more well known.
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Re: Combining Ayurvedic/Tibetan Medicine and Herbs & Supplements

Postby Lhug-Pa » Fri Feb 17, 2012 6:36 pm

Bimala and Semde as you probably know, are supposed to take effect in the long run rather than feeling the effects right away as with something like Damiana or caffeine. Although I did feel a slight immediate effect from Bimala and Semde the first time I took them.

Whole-plant Passion Flower is supposed to be excellent as well. There's a Guayaki Yerba Maté flavor called Passion that has Damiana and Catuaba in it that I drink often (one of my favorite drinks in fact). But I'd like to try Damiana and Catuaba aside from that drink too, and Passion Flower also.

On another forum people were discussing how to maintain chastity, and some were even considering how to lower their testosterone; and so then I explained that having lower testosterone would actually make sexual problems even worse, because lower libido is a cause of depression, and depression can lead to even more sexual excesses/addictions. It might sound strange that having higher libido is more conducive to having more control over sexual energy, but it's true. For example, any low-testosterone depression-case can artificially stimulate themselves with pornography, even repeatedly, yet this would only lead to further depletion of Ojas, more nervousness, and more depression. Whereas someone with high libido who, whether he or she is having sex or not, sublimates their libido through healthy activities such as working-out, various forms of Yoga, meditation, etc., is going to have less problems with things like depression and neurotic sexual addictions. I'd imagine that on a similar note good digestion would be more conducive to less problems related to food addiction.

Anyway, the Chulen sold by Siddhienergetics is said to replenish what Chinese Medicine calls Ancestral or Prenatal Jing, which is otherwise apparently very difficult to do. And that Chulen is already blessed and consecrated by H.E. Trulshik Rinpoche, although I'm sure that it would complement Mandarava practice very well.


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