heart wrote:Nangwa wrote:Sorry you might have missed it Magnus. I'm not really interested in continuing the discussion to be honest.
I already acknowledged that I mis-represented when I said "requirement". I remember getting involved with you in circular discussions on e-sangha and have no desire to repeat that here. I dont mean to be rude.
You can think whatever you want and thats just fine. We have different experiences, thats all.
I have no idea who you are, so I can't recall having any discussions with you on e-sangha or anywhere else. I have no problems with you, I just think you should be able to back up your statements with some facts, that's all.
I thought it was basic common knowledge but since you insist here is a link to a Drukpa Kagyu recommendation that one have a Vajrasattva empowerment prior to doing any Vajrasattva practice like the one in ngondro.
http://www.drukpa.com/index.php/teachin ... 10-ngondro
"As I mentioned earlier, before the Vajrayana practice, you should get an initiation of Vajrasattva or some kind of Vajrayana initiation. After this, you should start the Vajrayogini practice, which is part of the ngondro practice. Actually, this practice is not allowed to be publicly transmitted. But I thought that people might be able to get some blessings, therefore I gave the initiation the other night to the public. For those of you who are doing ngondro, you should be prepared to visualize yourself as Vajrayogini and guru on top of your crown. The Vajrayogini practice is actually part of the guru yoga."--HH Gyalwang Drukpa
This quote also illustrates the importance of a Vajrasattva empowerment for further practice general Vajrayana practice.