Military and Buddhism

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Straka
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Military and Buddhism

Postby Straka » Wed Jan 18, 2012 12:27 am

I was wondering what others views of the military and people being in the military and practicing Buddhism. I think threads like this are already out there, but none too specific.
I only ask because i joined the military before i started practicing Buddhism, but i have started practicing it since i joined. I feel as though it really isn't that great of an....idea i guess. My job ultimately entails that i power a machine able to kill hundreds to millions of people at the press of a button.
Anyway, just wanted to see other peoples views on this. Sorry for not being more specific, will add details if requested.

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Re: Military and Buddhism

Postby Straka » Wed Jan 18, 2012 12:30 am

Oh, and there is always the conscientious objector route to be discharged from the military, which i have been considering.

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Re: Military and Buddhism

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Re: Military and Buddhism

Postby Konchog1 » Wed Jan 18, 2012 1:31 am

Equanimity is the ground. Love is the moisture. Compassion is the seed. Bodhicitta is the result.

-Paraphrase of Khensur Rinpoche Lobsang Tsephel citing the Guhyasamaja Tantra

"All memories and thoughts are the union of emptiness and knowing, the Mind.
Without attachment, self-liberating, like a snake in a knot.
Through the qualities of meditating in that way,
Mental obscurations are purified and the dharmakaya is attained."

-Ra Lotsawa, All-pervading Melodious Drumbeats

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Re: Military and Buddhism

Postby Straka » Wed Jan 18, 2012 2:02 am

Thanks Mr. G and Kochog1.

As for the whole launch thing, you never know whether or not it will actually happen, and if i did stay in i could end up on an SSN class submarine, a fast attack, (rather than an SSBN class, a nuclear missile bearing submarine), which are actively involved in current wars and conflicts conducted by the US.

As to Mr. G, that would be a very helpful quote to place in any paper i would have to write if i were to apply for conscientious objector.

Many thanks, to both of you.

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Huifeng
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Re: Military and Buddhism

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Re: Military and Buddhism

Postby Mr. G » Wed Jan 18, 2012 2:20 am

Best of luck to you Straka, and stay safe out there.

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Re: Military and Buddhism

Postby Konchog1 » Wed Jan 18, 2012 3:45 am

Equanimity is the ground. Love is the moisture. Compassion is the seed. Bodhicitta is the result.

-Paraphrase of Khensur Rinpoche Lobsang Tsephel citing the Guhyasamaja Tantra

"All memories and thoughts are the union of emptiness and knowing, the Mind.
Without attachment, self-liberating, like a snake in a knot.
Through the qualities of meditating in that way,
Mental obscurations are purified and the dharmakaya is attained."

-Ra Lotsawa, All-pervading Melodious Drumbeats

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Re: Military and Buddhism

Postby Rakz » Wed Jan 18, 2012 4:56 am

A Buddhist has no place in the military. Stay away as far as possible.

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Re: Military and Buddhism

Postby Indrajala » Wed Jan 18, 2012 4:59 am

tad etat sarvajñānaṃ karuṇāmūlaṃ bodhicittahetukam upāyaparyavasānam iti |

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Re: Military and Buddhism

Postby plwk » Wed Jan 18, 2012 6:39 am

Straka...say if you can't leave, there are other options within right?
Executive, administrative, and managerial, Construction, Electronic and electrical equipment repair, engineering, science, and technical, healthcare, human resources development, media and public affairs, protective service, support service, transportation and material-handling, vehicle and machinery mechanics...

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Huifeng
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Re: Military and Buddhism

Postby Huifeng » Wed Jan 18, 2012 8:52 am

Please note at this point that the idea that a soldier in a given army is karmically responsible for all the acts of that army is one that while found in one or other important text, is not universally across all Buddhist schools of thought.

~~ Huifeng


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Re: Military and Buddhism

Postby Indrajala » Wed Jan 18, 2012 9:09 am

tad etat sarvajñānaṃ karuṇāmūlaṃ bodhicittahetukam upāyaparyavasānam iti |

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Re: Military and Buddhism

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Re: Military and Buddhism

Postby Konchog1 » Wed Jan 18, 2012 9:29 am

So a sailor who spends his term in a SSBN with his finger on the Big Red Button generates (relatively) minor negative karma due to his willingness to kill but nothing else?
Equanimity is the ground. Love is the moisture. Compassion is the seed. Bodhicitta is the result.

-Paraphrase of Khensur Rinpoche Lobsang Tsephel citing the Guhyasamaja Tantra

"All memories and thoughts are the union of emptiness and knowing, the Mind.
Without attachment, self-liberating, like a snake in a knot.
Through the qualities of meditating in that way,
Mental obscurations are purified and the dharmakaya is attained."

-Ra Lotsawa, All-pervading Melodious Drumbeats

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Re: Military and Buddhism

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Re: Military and Buddhism

Postby Indrajala » Wed Jan 18, 2012 10:45 am

tad etat sarvajñānaṃ karuṇāmūlaṃ bodhicittahetukam upāyaparyavasānam iti |

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Re: Military and Buddhism

Postby Dave The Seeker » Wed Jan 18, 2012 11:47 am

Everyday problems teach us to have a realistic attitude.
They teach us that life is what life is; flawed.
Yet with tremendous potential for joy and fulfillment.
~Lama Surya Das~

If your path teaches you to act and exert yourself correctly and leads to spiritual realizations such as love, compassion and wisdom then obviously it's worthwhile.
~Lama Thubten Yeshe~

One whose mind is freed does not argue with anyone, he does not dispute with anyone. He makes use of the conventional terms of the world without clinging to them
~The Buddha~

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Re: Military and Buddhism

Postby Indrajala » Wed Jan 18, 2012 12:01 pm

tad etat sarvajñānaṃ karuṇāmūlaṃ bodhicittahetukam upāyaparyavasānam iti |

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Re: Military and Buddhism

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