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Is belief in God/s dangerous?

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Postby alan » Fri Jul 23, 2010 5:12 am

Bodhisattva of compassion--and others in the pantheon regularly attended to in some Buddhist countries--Good or Bad?

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"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

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Re: Is belief in God/s dangerous?

Postby alan » Fri Jul 23, 2010 5:25 am

It does not necessarily take two. Devotion can be a way of feeling personal transcendence. That is my response to the OP.
As for me, I'm always on guard against superstitions. But if some people feel better putting ghee on the shrine of the God of compassion, and that makes them act more compassionately, well then I'd say go for it. Butter it up. Just as long as they realize what they are doing.

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Postby alan » Fri Jul 23, 2010 6:20 am

Or it can be a personal relationship. Between the mother-to- be and her fertility god.
We logical persons don't get into that, of course. And I'm not advocating it. But if it makes some people more likely to act ethically, and does not agitate hatred, and can be confined within the culture that believes it, well then I have to say break out the ghee. Worse things have happened.

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Re: Is belief in God/s dangerous?

Postby rowyourboat » Fri Jul 23, 2010 6:27 pm

The Buddha says the negative results of craving are mild but long lasting
the negative results of aversion are strong but short lasting
the negative results of delusion are strong and long lasting
- so leave God at the door please
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Re: Is belief in God/s dangerous?

Postby curiousgeorge » Tue Jul 27, 2010 8:31 am

well said! Belief in God - or anything else - can be dangerous. Including disbelief in God. :p

I do agree that religion has a reputation for tapping the inner stupid, but I think its somewhat undeserved. Afterall, wars may be fought in the name of religion, but religion didn't cause them. Clashes over resources caused them. Religion was just a convenient, but ultimately unnecessary, excuse. Slavery, colonization, and the Spanish Inquisition all had far more to do with resources than with morals.

There are people who seek some pretty far out cults, but these are the same people that, say, buy amulets thinking the amulet will bring luck and protect the wearer from bullets. If it weren't the amulet, it would be something else. People will always sell snake oil, and people will always buy it because its easy. Its not religion, per se, taking advantage of these people so much as it is he characteristics of the people getting expressed. Trickle up, not trickle down, I say. Granted, groups of people take on characteristics, and group-think emerges. This is certainly a problem. But this is also a problem with mobs in general, and not specific to religion, either.

Beyond that, there is the nightly news effect. How often do you hear reports of a good Christian or Muslim who goes about their business quietly, helping people. Not so much. But the conservative televangelist who is bopping the gay prostitutes in between shows? All over the front page.

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Re: Is belief in God/s dangerous?

Postby bodom » Tue Jul 27, 2010 12:57 pm

To study is to know the texts,
To practice is to know your defilements,
To attain the goal is to know and let go.

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With mindfulness immersed in the body
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"As Buddhists, we should aim to develop relationships that are not predominated by grasping and clinging. Our relationships should be characterised by the brahmaviharas of metta (loving kindness), mudita (sympathetic joy), karuna (compassion), and upekkha (equanimity)."
~post by Ben, Jul 02, 2009

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Re: Is belief in God/s dangerous?

Postby PeterB » Tue Jul 27, 2010 2:11 pm

Number of people killed by the Spanish Inquitition in one hundred years. ( every death appalling ).. seventeen thousand.
Number of people killed by the Pol Pot regime in Cambodia between 1975 and 1979 in the name of atheism.. two million.
Dont let Dawkins and Hitchens fool you . There are much more dangerous things than theistic religions.

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