Fruitzilla wrote:For starters, I don't see how charlatanry (is this correct English?) has anything to do with modernity? I am referring to the Genpo example.
When Buddhism first arrived in the U.S., what traditional teacher was charging this type of money and guaranteeing Kensho?
Second, I heard the denial of rebirth and karma argument about 10 million times now. Yes, there are buddhists, especially evil western modern Zen buddhists who question if adhering to a medieval cosmological order is a prerequisite to be allow into the buddhist in-crowd.
If anything it shows a lack of intellectual rigor and the inability to understand suttas/sutras. It's no different than if someone called themselves a Christian and denied the resurrection - they're not really Christian. When rebirth is taken out of Buddhism, it's really absurd in the greater context of Buddhism and nonsensical. But like you, I've heard the denial of rebirth and karma argument many times as well.
Maybe the 12 links can be seen through without first forcing a belief-system upon yourself?
On a simplistic level, sure.
Maybe watching closely how suffering arises will do the trick?
Suffering arises from the ripening of past karma.