banned from zenforuminternational...

[klqv]

no idea why!

to be honest, i've felt like the moderators have been unkind / harassing me for like a year... i don't understand it! i never say anything intentionally malicious, so i don't see why i should be treated like that.


has anyone else experienced this kind of bullsh1t on a supposedly buddhist website ?

[Mr. G]

There are members from that site here, perhaps they can assist. Do you have example posts you've made?

[klqv]

take your pick!


one day i got drunk and had a go at a friend i have on there... you have my word that that's the only time i've ever deliberately been anything but thought provoking or humorous. i told them that i have suffered mental ill health before, and while they may have in their heads been more lenient to me because of this, i suspect it also means that they don't listen to my explanation of what i was trying to say, whenever someone reports one of my posts.

so i sound paranoid??

[gad rgyangs]

has anyone else experienced this kind of bullsh1t on a supposedly buddhist website ?

you're joking right? have you ever heard of e-sangha?

[Mr. G]

take your pick!


one day i got drunk and had a go at a friend i have on there... you have my word that that's the only time i've ever deliberately been anything but thought provoking or humorous. i told them that i have suffered mental ill health before, and while they may have in their heads been more lenient to me because of this, i suspect it also means that they don't listen to my explanation of what i was trying to say, whenever someone reports one of my posts.

so i sound paranoid??

No, I personally don't know how moderation works on that forum. I believe there are moderators over there that also participate here.

[Malcolm]

has anyone else experienced this kind of bullsh1t on a supposedly buddhist website ?

you're joking right? have you ever heard of e-sangha?

The funny thing is they all quit e-sangha because we were too "draconian" -- but from what I hear, they have instituted very draconion policies.

N

[Fruitzilla]

has anyone else experienced this kind of bullsh1t on a supposedly buddhist website ?

you're joking right? have you ever heard of e-sangha?

The funny thing is they all quit e-sangha because we were too "draconian" -- but from what I hear, they have instituted very draconion policies.

N

I always figured you and Nonin had more in common than you both wanted to admit......

[Malcolm]

I always figured you and Nonin had more in common than you both wanted to admit......

One thing people really don't undertand is that I virtually had no hand in making the policies of E-Sangha.

I was just a convientient person to blame.

N

[Fruitzilla]

I always figured you and Nonin had more in common than you both wanted to admit......

One thing people really don't undertand is that I virtually had no hand in making the policies of E-Sangha.

I was just a convientient person to blame.

N

I have no insight into the internal affairs of the moderating team.
You did seems pretty pivotal in the prevailing culture over there though.

[conebeckham]

I was a mod at E-Sangha.
Namdrol speaks the truth.


Of course, everyone needs a scapegoat when they're disatisfied!

[Malcolm]

I always figured you and Nonin had more in common than you both wanted to admit......

One thing people really don't undertand is that I virtually had no hand in making the policies of E-Sangha.

I was just a convientient person to blame.

N

I have no insight into the internal affairs of the moderating team.
You did seems pretty pivotal in the prevailing culture over there though.

No more so than here.

The fact is that E-sangha was too big, and trying to wear too many hats, being everything to everyone. The fact that it fell apart and reconstituted itself into three separate forums completely makes sense.

N

[Malcolm]

Funny that there's a Theravada, a Mahayana(actually mostly Vajrayana) and a Zen forum by the way. Three pretty different interpretations/temperaments it seems.

That is pretty much exactly how it was at E-Sangha. What made people unhappy was that most of the mods were Tibetan Buddhists, even though we tried hard to have team balanced between Zen, TB and Theravada.

N

[catmoon]

I was wandering around ZFI and it seemed to me that their standards are very high. I wouldn't even try to post something chatty or irreverent there.

[Virgo]

Ah to heck with it. Don't be mad or jealous. Become a hippie, like me.

too much intensity messes with ya!!!!!

Kevin

[DarwidHalim]

This kind of ban or warning is very normal. I also got it, hahaha.

Get ban or no ban, get warning or no warning, when we look at it, actually no difference.

[daelm]

has anyone else experienced this kind of bullsh1t on a supposedly buddhist website ?

you're joking right? have you ever heard of e-sangha?

The funny thing is they all quit e-sangha because we were too "draconian" -- but from what I hear, they have instituted very draconion policies.

N

this is SERIOUS! I THINK CONCERNED MEMBERS OF THE INTERNETS SHOULD * IMMEDIATELY* CREATE FIVE APPARENTLY UNRELATED WEB-PAGES DENOUNCING THESE FORUMS!!!! USING DAY-GLO FONTS!!!! DO IT NOW. THIS IS THE END OF WESTERN BUDDHISM!!!@@!!!!

[Mr. G]

this is SERIOUS! I THINK CONCERNED MEMBERS OF THE INTERNETS SHOULD * IMMEDIATELY* CREATE FIVE APPARENTLY UNRELATED WEB-PAGES DENOUNCING THESE FORUMS!!!! USING DAY-GLO FONTS!!!! DO IT NOW. THIS IS THE END OF WESTERN BUDDHISM!!!@@!!!!

[DGA]

I was wandering around ZFI and it seemed to me that their standards are very high. I wouldn't even try to post something chatty or irreverent there.

Yeah, I'd say their standards are simultaneously very specific and a bit fuzzy too. They want to keep it focused on Zen, but there seems to be some vacillation (or just a very tight definition) for what counts as a "Zen perspective." I don't try to post there anymore as a consequence.

Apropos of culture: the ZFI board is increasingly sage-on-the-stage in function. That is, you come to the board to pose a question to an authority, who dispenses an answer, and you're done. I prefer a more democratic discussion-based model such as the one here at DW.

All this is to say that I agree with Fruitzilla on principle if not on the particulars. Discussion boards do have cultures and those are often determined by the formal and informal structures of authority and legitimation in the leadership. I think the problem Fruitzilla is describing is more prevalent at ZFI than DW, though (if I understand Fruitzilla correctly).

[Mr. G]

Topic Split: Dharma Wheel on Dharma Wheel....

[Mr. G]

I'm not a member there, but knowledgeable members like Venerable Hui Feng and Anders Honore are. I'm glad that they share their knowledge here as well.