Dharma Wheel

A Buddhist discussion forum on Mahayana and Vajrayana Buddhism
It is currently Thu Dec 25, 2014 7:32 am

All times are UTC [ DST ]


Forum rules


Please click here to view the forum rules



Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 13 posts ] 
Author Message
 Post subject: The Iron Lady
PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 4:54 pm 
Offline

Joined: Thu Feb 25, 2010 10:41 am
Posts: 2778
Anybody watching or have watched?



I think Argentinians may give it a pass...

_________________
TWTB BIES OCB DDM BWF


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: The Iron Lady
PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 6:26 pm 
Offline
Former staff member
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jan 18, 2010 5:29 pm
Posts: 4612
Location: Baltimore, MD
WOW! That's the trailer playing in the UK? It's nothing at all like the trailer playing in the US.

Overall the movie is being panned, declared to take liberties with history, but Meryl Streep's performance is highly praised.

I remember Margaret Thatcher embracing the cowboy Ronald Reagan with a mushroom cloud behind them from a poster popular in Germany in the early 80's.

I'll break away from my projects this weekend (it's the MLK memorial holiday in the US) and see how the movie portrays MT, war monger and champion of the monied classes. Hopefully this is a warning to history (although she did allay fears about Mikhail Gorbatchow in the US thus setting the stage for the peaceful resolution of the Cold War).

Kirt

_________________
Kirt's Tibetan Translation Notes

"Only you can make your mind beautiful."
HH Chetsang Rinpoche


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: The Iron Lady
PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 10:53 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Nov 26, 2011 4:30 am
Posts: 1355
According to the LA times, the people in the UK that hate Thatcher are going ape.

_________________
Equanimity is the ground. Love is the moisture. Compassion is the seed. Bodhicitta is the result.

-Paraphrase of Khensur Rinpoche Lobsang Tsephel citing the Guhyasamaja Tantra

"All memories and thoughts are the union of emptiness and knowing, the Mind.
Without attachment, self-liberating, like a snake in a knot.
Through the qualities of meditating in that way,
Mental obscurations are purified and the dharmakaya is attained."

-Ra Lotsawa, All-pervading Melodious Drumbeats


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: The Iron Lady
PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 10:58 pm 
Offline

Joined: Thu Jan 07, 2010 6:44 pm
Posts: 1565
No way!
I bet Streep is great playing a character that is nothing like the real Thatcher.
I am sure this movie glorifies an absolutely dreadful political "leader".


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: The Iron Lady
PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 11:58 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Aug 22, 2011 6:11 pm
Posts: 162
Location: Aberdeen, Scotland
My family told me bogey man tales of her growing up and let me tell you she is hated by the majority of Scotland. I remember my mother telling me stories of how people froze to death because of the miners strikes she incited, my mother also worked for the fire service and they were also on strike due to appalling treatment by her goverment as a result people burned to death. She also experiemented with Scotland by introducing the 'Poll tax' no one else in the UK payed this tax until a whole year later - she blamed the riots on communists rather than just admiting it was her unpopular policies. This sounds like the sort of film that idiot Republicans will love.

_________________
I don't know where we are going but it will be nice when we get there


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: The Iron Lady
PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 12:22 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2010 3:23 am
Posts: 682
Location: Canada


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: The Iron Lady
PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 12:48 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jan 02, 2012 6:18 am
Posts: 206
Location: Portland, Oregon, USA
Did northern Irish Catholics get sufferage during or after thatcher?

_________________
"Cause is not before and Effect is not after"
- Eihei Dogen Zenji


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: The Iron Lady
PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 1:31 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Aug 22, 2011 6:11 pm
Posts: 162
Location: Aberdeen, Scotland
Quote:
Did northern Irish Catholics get sufferage during or after thatcher?

I have no idea. That is a particular nasty can of worms and most people outside the UK don't really understand the impact of the conflict and indeed most British people outside Northern Ireland don't and to be honest the political system there is still heavily corrupt. I grew up in the last end of the 'troubles' in the 90's scary times, more people killed by the violence than in the Twin Towers, indeed my next door neighbour was a member of the IRA who hid machine guns under the house.

_________________
I don't know where we are going but it will be nice when we get there


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: The Iron Lady
PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 1:53 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jan 02, 2012 6:18 am
Posts: 206
Location: Portland, Oregon, USA
I think the Irish could teach Israel something about their own troubles.

My family is from Cavan. My grandpa speaks Gaelic and my dad is an Irish citizen. I'm just an American though. Bet I'd be cool and exotic if I moved there though :)

_________________
"Cause is not before and Effect is not after"
- Eihei Dogen Zenji


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: The Iron Lady
PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 6:17 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Nov 12, 2010 7:29 pm
Posts: 86
Location: Fukuoka
this....

kirtu wrote:
Overall the movie is being panned, declared to take liberties with history


and this....

Konchog1 wrote:
the people in the UK that hate Thatcher are going ape.


will make me give it a miss, not least because this...

AdmiralJim wrote:
My family told me bogey man tales of her growing up and let me tell you she is hated by the majority of Scotland. I remember my mother telling me stories of how people froze to death because of the miners strikes she incited, my mother also worked for the fire service and they were also on strike due to appalling treatment by her goverment as a result people burned to death. She also experiemented with Scotland by introducing the 'Poll tax' no one else in the UK payed this tax until a whole year later - she blamed the riots on communists rather than just admiting it was her unpopular policies. This sounds like the sort of film that idiot Republicans will love.


the damage Thatcher did to the country is extremely undeserving of being glossed over, a shame really as the whole film stinks of a missed opportunity by the sounds of it.

_________________
All beings since their first aspiration till the attainment of Buddhahood are sheltered under the guardianship of Buddhas and Bodhisattvas who, responding to the requirements of the occasion, transform themselves and assume the actual forms of personality.

Thus for the sake of all beings Buddhas and Bodhisattvas become sometimes their parents, sometimes their wives and children, sometimes their kinsmen, sometimes their servants, sometimes their friends, sometimes their enemies, sometimes reveal themselves as devas or in some other forms.


- Ashvaghosa, The Awakening of Faith

oroka


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: The Iron Lady
PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 5:22 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jan 02, 2012 6:18 am
Posts: 206
Location: Portland, Oregon, USA
Thatcher is like my Ronald Reagan. Before my time, but easy to still blame for the mess we are in. I hope neo-liberalism is dead in wake of bush 2. I don't think the world can handle another free market power play.

_________________
"Cause is not before and Effect is not after"
- Eihei Dogen Zenji


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: The Iron Lady
PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 5:24 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Apr 07, 2009 12:39 pm
Posts: 783
Konchog1 wrote:
According to the LA times, the people in the UK that hate Thatcher are going ape.


They are many. Probably the most despised prime minister in modern UK history.

_________________
"Even if my body should be burnt to death in the fires of hell
I would endure it for myriad lifetimes
As your companion in practice"

--- Gandavyuha Sutra


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: The Iron Lady
PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 5:40 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun Jun 05, 2011 6:26 pm
Posts: 639
Location: Mudhole? Slimy? My home, this is.
Anders Honore wrote:
Konchog1 wrote:
According to the LA times, the people in the UK that hate Thatcher are going ape.


They are many. Probably the most despised prime minister in modern UK history.


Little wonder.

_________________
. . . there they saw a rock! But it wasn't a rock . . .


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 13 posts ] 

All times are UTC [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 11 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
cron
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group