You know you're...

You know you're...

Postby plwk » Sat Jan 14, 2012 4:39 pm

a Zen Buddhist when...
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Re: You know you're...

Postby mindyourmind » Sat Jan 14, 2012 8:11 pm

You respond to difficult practice questions with 'who is asking that question?'

Or

You convince yourself that excruciating pain in your knees during zazen will cause satori.
As bad as bad becomes its not a part of you

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Re: You know you're...

Postby Jikan » Sat Jan 14, 2012 9:19 pm

your attitude toward the practice of oryoki moves from annoyance to appreciation to boredom and back to appreciation
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Re: You know you're...

Postby Quiet Heart » Sun Jan 15, 2012 2:21 am

:shrug:
Or naybe when you just laugh and say, "Asking that question is just silly anyhow"?
:geek:
Shame on you Shakyamuni for setting the precedent of leaving home.
Did you think it was not there--
in your wife's lovely face
in your baby's laughter?
Did you think you had to go elsewhere (simply) to find it?
from - Judyth Collin
The Layman's Lament
From What Book, 1998, p. 52
Edited by Gary Gach
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Re: You know you're...

Postby catmoon » Sun Jan 15, 2012 8:23 am

You go to the store, and while picking up a can of sardines from the bottom shelf, your gaze passes over your shoes, resulting in the thought that shoes and sardines aren't all that different, really.
Sergeant Schultz knew everything there was to know.
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Re: You know you're...

Postby plwk » Sun Jan 15, 2012 11:33 am

ya can't give a straight answer but enjoy the fabulosity of nebulosity...
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Re: You know you're...

Postby Fruitzilla » Sun Jan 15, 2012 3:01 pm

You don't post on Dharma-Wheel...
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Re: You know you're...

Postby Mr. G » Sun Jan 15, 2012 3:35 pm

Fruitzilla wrote:You don't post on Dharma-Wheel...


The one's that don't are busy posting at the "You know you're a Zen Buddhist modernist" thread on other forums. :tongue:
    How foolish you are,
    grasping the letter of the text and ignoring its intention!
    - Vasubandhu
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Re: You know you're...

Postby Mr. G » Sun Jan 15, 2012 3:45 pm

plwk wrote:a Zen Buddhist when...


You're asked "Does a dog have Buddha nature or not?"
And you reply "Wu"
    How foolish you are,
    grasping the letter of the text and ignoring its intention!
    - Vasubandhu
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Re: You know you're...

Postby Mr. G » Sun Jan 15, 2012 4:50 pm

    How foolish you are,
    grasping the letter of the text and ignoring its intention!
    - Vasubandhu
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Re: You know you're...

Postby Beatzen » Sun Jan 15, 2012 5:11 pm

You know you're a zen buddhist when you see the Tao in the idiotic things people say about zen.
"Cause is not before and Effect is not after"
- Eihei Dogen Zenji
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Re: You know you're...

Postby Astus » Sun Jan 15, 2012 6:32 pm

Here's a thorough one from Yongming Yanshou's Zongjinglu (tr. by Albert Welter):

I now present ten questions in order to form a framework [to test your understanding].

[1] Do you thoroughly understand seeing [one’s] nature, as if delineating and contemplating phenomenal forms similar to someone like Mañjuśrī?
[2] In everything you do—whether encountering situations or dealing with externals, seeing phenomenal forms or listening to sounds, raising a foot or lowering a foot, opening the eyes or closing the eyes—do you illuminate the implicit truth [ zong ] and comply with Buddhism?
[3] Do you read the teachings of each age and the statements of former patriarchs and masters, listening deeply and unafraid, completely understanding the truth in all of their teachings and not doubting it?
[4] In response to different [types of] difficult questions and all manner of trivial queries, are you able to provide [answers] according to the four kinds of eloquent responses and completely resolve the doubts that others have?
[5] At all times and in all situations, does wisdom shine forth unhindered and does thought after thought pass perfectly, without encountering a single dharma that is able to cause obstruction, or being interrupted for even a single instant?
[6] In all the occasions that present themselves to you in the external realm, whether contrary or agreeable, good or bad, do you resist [the desire to] elude them [on the one hand] and are you always conscious of destroying [any attachment to] them [on the other]?
[7] Within the realm of the mind and its objects comprised of a series of one hundred dharmas, do you get to see the extremely subtle essence-nature and the original point of rising of each and every [dharma], without confusing them with the circumstances of birth and death and the organs of sense and their objects?
[8] Regarding the four types of behavior—walking, standing, sitting, and lying—do you address others respectfully and exercise restraint when replying? And when wearing clothes and eating food, performing and carrying out [tasks], do you understand the true reality of each and every grade [in rank]?
[9] When listening to claims that there are Buddhas or there are no Buddhas, there are sentient beings or there are no sentient beings, do you sometimes applaud them and sometimes refute them, sometimes agree and sometime disagree, with a firm unwavering mind?
[10] When you hear about how all the different kinds of wisdom are able to clearly fathom how nature and form complement each other, how li and shi are unhindered, how nonexistence and existence are one and the same phenomena and do not reflect the origin [of phenomena] itself, and how the thousand sages appear in the world, can you avoid doubting it?

Even if you have not actually attained merits like these, you will never conceive the inclination to trespass or deceive, or form ideas of self-indulgence or satisfaction in one’s knowledge.
"There is no such thing as the real mind. Ridding yourself of delusion: that's the real mind."
(Sheng-yen: Getting the Buddha Mind, p 73)

"Neither cultivation nor seated meditation — this is the pure Chan of Tathagata."
(Mazu Daoyi, X1321p3b23; tr. Jinhua Jia)

“Don’t rashly seek the true Buddha;
True Buddha can’t be found.
Does marvelous nature and spirit
Need tempering or refinement?
Mind is this mind carefree;
This face, the face at birth."

(Nanyue Mingzan: Enjoying the Way, tr. Jeff Shore; T2076p461b24-26)
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Re: You know you're...

Postby Jnana » Sun Jan 15, 2012 6:38 pm

:good:

Leave it to Yongming Yanshou to raise the bar!!!
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Re: You know you're...

Postby White Lotus » Fri Feb 03, 2012 5:26 pm

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in any matters of importance. dont rely on me. i may not know what i am talking about. take what i say as mere speculation. i am not ordained. nor do i have a formal training. i do believe though that if i am wrong on any point. there are those on this site who i hope will quickly point out my mistakes.
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Re: You know you're a Ch'an Buddhist...

Postby Qian Zheng Yi » Fri Mar 09, 2012 10:00 pm

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