The Iron Lady
The Iron Lady
Anybody watching or have watched?
I think Argentinians may give it a pass...
I think Argentinians may give it a pass...
Re: The Iron Lady
WOW! That's the trailer playing in the UK? It's nothing at all like the trailer playing in the US.
Overall the movie is being panned, declared to take liberties with history, but Meryl Streep's performance is highly praised.
I remember Margaret Thatcher embracing the cowboy Ronald Reagan with a mushroom cloud behind them from a poster popular in Germany in the early 80's.
I'll break away from my projects this weekend (it's the MLK memorial holiday in the US) and see how the movie portrays MT, war monger and champion of the monied classes. Hopefully this is a warning to history (although she did allay fears about Mikhail Gorbatchow in the US thus setting the stage for the peaceful resolution of the Cold War).
Kirt
Overall the movie is being panned, declared to take liberties with history, but Meryl Streep's performance is highly praised.
I remember Margaret Thatcher embracing the cowboy Ronald Reagan with a mushroom cloud behind them from a poster popular in Germany in the early 80's.
I'll break away from my projects this weekend (it's the MLK memorial holiday in the US) and see how the movie portrays MT, war monger and champion of the monied classes. Hopefully this is a warning to history (although she did allay fears about Mikhail Gorbatchow in the US thus setting the stage for the peaceful resolution of the Cold War).
Kirt
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Zen Master Seung Sahn said, “That’s simple. Atomic bombs come from the mind that likes this and doesn’t like that.”
"Even if you practice only for an hour a day with faith and inspiration, good qualities will steadily increase. Regular practice makes it easy to transform your mind. From seeing only relative truth, you will eventually reach a profound certainty in the meaning of absolute truth."
Kyabje Dilgo Khyentse Rinpoche.
"Only you can make your mind beautiful."
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According to the LA times, the people in the UK that hate Thatcher are going ape.
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-Paraphrase of Khensur Rinpoche Lobsang Tsephel citing the Guhyasamaja Tantra
"All memories and thoughts are the union of emptiness and knowing, the Mind.
Without attachment, self-liberating, like a snake in a knot.
Through the qualities of meditating in that way,
Mental obscurations are purified and the dharmakaya is attained."
-Ra Lotsawa, All-pervading Melodious Drumbeats
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No way!
I bet Streep is great playing a character that is nothing like the real Thatcher.
I am sure this movie glorifies an absolutely dreadful political "leader".
I bet Streep is great playing a character that is nothing like the real Thatcher.
I am sure this movie glorifies an absolutely dreadful political "leader".
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My family told me bogey man tales of her growing up and let me tell you she is hated by the majority of Scotland. I remember my mother telling me stories of how people froze to death because of the miners strikes she incited, my mother also worked for the fire service and they were also on strike due to appalling treatment by her goverment as a result people burned to death. She also experiemented with Scotland by introducing the 'Poll tax' no one else in the UK payed this tax until a whole year later - she blamed the riots on communists rather than just admiting it was her unpopular policies. This sounds like the sort of film that idiot Republicans will love.
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Did northern Irish Catholics get sufferage during or after thatcher?
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I have no idea. That is a particular nasty can of worms and most people outside the UK don't really understand the impact of the conflict and indeed most British people outside Northern Ireland don't and to be honest the political system there is still heavily corrupt. I grew up in the last end of the 'troubles' in the 90's scary times, more people killed by the violence than in the Twin Towers, indeed my next door neighbour was a member of the IRA who hid machine guns under the house.Did northern Irish Catholics get sufferage during or after thatcher?
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I think the Irish could teach Israel something about their own troubles.
My family is from Cavan. My grandpa speaks Gaelic and my dad is an Irish citizen. I'm just an American though. Bet I'd be cool and exotic if I moved there though
My family is from Cavan. My grandpa speaks Gaelic and my dad is an Irish citizen. I'm just an American though. Bet I'd be cool and exotic if I moved there though
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this....
and this....kirtu wrote: Overall the movie is being panned, declared to take liberties with history
will make me give it a miss, not least because this...Konchog1 wrote:the people in the UK that hate Thatcher are going ape.
the damage Thatcher did to the country is extremely undeserving of being glossed over, a shame really as the whole film stinks of a missed opportunity by the sounds of it.AdmiralJim wrote:My family told me bogey man tales of her growing up and let me tell you she is hated by the majority of Scotland. I remember my mother telling me stories of how people froze to death because of the miners strikes she incited, my mother also worked for the fire service and they were also on strike due to appalling treatment by her goverment as a result people burned to death. She also experiemented with Scotland by introducing the 'Poll tax' no one else in the UK payed this tax until a whole year later - she blamed the riots on communists rather than just admiting it was her unpopular policies. This sounds like the sort of film that idiot Republicans will love.
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Thatcher is like my Ronald Reagan. Before my time, but easy to still blame for the mess we are in. I hope neo-liberalism is dead in wake of bush 2. I don't think the world can handle another free market power play.
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They are many. Probably the most despised prime minister in modern UK history.Konchog1 wrote:According to the LA times, the people in the UK that hate Thatcher are going ape.
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Little wonder.Anders Honore wrote:They are many. Probably the most despised prime minister in modern UK history.Konchog1 wrote:According to the LA times, the people in the UK that hate Thatcher are going ape.
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