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Free-will is it an illusion?

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Re: Free-will is it an illusion?

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Re: Free-will is it an illusion?

Postby Modus.Ponens » Tue Jul 20, 2010 9:00 pm

He turns his mind away from those phenomena, and having done so, inclines his mind to the property of deathlessness: 'This is peace, this is exquisite — the resolution of all fabrications; the relinquishment of all acquisitions; the ending of craving; dispassion; cessation; Unbinding.'
(Jhana Sutta - Thanissaro Bhikkhu translation)

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Re: Free-will is it an illusion?

Postby acinteyyo » Wed Jul 21, 2010 12:28 am

What is free-will?
Thag 1.20. Ajita - I do not fear death; nor do I long for life. I’ll lay down this body, aware and mindful.

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Re: Free-will is it an illusion?

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Re: Free-will is it an illusion?

Postby PeterB » Wed Jul 21, 2010 8:17 am

I find it slightly puzzling that a thread discussing freewill ( ! ) on a Theravada Forum has turned into a discussion about Vajrayana notions and the possible influence pf Kashmiri Shaivism on these notions. I know this is the lounge but......

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Re: Free-will is it an illusion?

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Re: Free-will is it an illusion?

Postby PeterB » Wed Jul 21, 2010 1:26 pm

Dharma Atma, The Theravada does not in general recognize The Lankavatara Sutra or The Diamond Sutra as representing the teachings of the Buddha. Neither Wilbur or Blavatsky are Buddhist teachers.
The Shunyata doctrine is not taught in the Theravada.
There is a sister forum to this one called Dharma Wheel. It might be the case that you will find discussion there more suited to your point of view.

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Re: Free-will is it an illusion?

Postby PeterB » Wed Jul 21, 2010 2:20 pm

I cant speak for the mods Snowmelt but in my view there is nothing wrong with the topic, but on a forum which which exists "for discussion of the Dhamma of the Theravada " discussion should I would suggest happen within the parameters set by that Theravadin Dhamma.

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Re: Free-will is it an illusion?

Postby chownah » Wed Jul 21, 2010 3:16 pm

AS always, like an echo from the past.....the Buddha advises to have no doctrine of self whatever....

I guess that what this means is that if you have to have some belief in some "self" which has or exercises this "free will" thing then it is probably best to just pass on conceptualizing this "free-will" thing altogether.......is it important to ask or answer this question?.....it can in principle not be proved one way or the other anyway....there can never be a true resolution of the issue.
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