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Whose Buddhism is Truest?

Postby uslic001 » Thu Aug 25, 2011 8:11 pm

Whose Buddhism is Truest?
No one’s—and everyone’s, it turns out.
Long-lost scrolls shed some surprising light.
Linda Heuman

http://www.tricycle.com/feature/whose-b ... t?page=0,0

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Re: Interesting article

Postby Pero » Fri Aug 26, 2011 12:08 pm

Thanks.
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Re: Whose Buddhism is Truest?

Postby Nicholas Weeks » Wed Jan 04, 2012 5:40 pm

Venerable,

I do not get your point. If so many early texts appear in differing languages with differing words why not conclude that there is no single, definitive written Dharma? Buddha had many Arhat disciples with, I assume, great memories, so why should Ananda's versions be the best & only "true" record?

This link permits one to read the full article: http://www.douban.com/group/topic/22375578/
A bodhisattva does not become weary of evil beings nor does he commit the error of bringing forth thoughts inclined to reject them and cast them aside. Avatamsaka Sutra, ch. 25

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Re: Whose Buddhism is Truest?

Postby Astus » Wed Jan 04, 2012 9:34 pm

The Chinese Canon - in fact, several canons edited in China - contains thousands of texts, including multiple translations of the same work, but they did not start any movement saying that "nobody and everybody is correct". Since Buddhism never had a uniform and single Holy Scripture, the diversity of texts has been always present. At the end of the day, it is naturally MY (teacher's) BUDDHISM is the truest.
Myriad dharmas are only mind.
Mind is unobtainable.
What is there to seek?

If the Buddha-Nature is seen,
there will be no seeing of a nature in any thing.

Neither cultivation nor seated meditation —
this is the pure Chan of Tathagata.

With sudden enlightenment to Tathagata Chan,
the six paramitas and myriad means
are complete within that essence.



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Re: Whose Buddhism is Truest?

Postby catmoon » Wed Jan 04, 2012 9:37 pm

Ok fine, you go practice your way, and I'll go practice Buddha's way. :rolling:
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Re: Whose Buddhism is Truest?

Postby Beatzen » Wed Jan 04, 2012 10:09 pm

Alan Watt's buddhism is fer true.

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Re: Whose Buddhism is Truest?

Postby Nicholas Weeks » Thu Jan 05, 2012 7:13 pm

A bodhisattva does not become weary of evil beings nor does he commit the error of bringing forth thoughts inclined to reject them and cast them aside. Avatamsaka Sutra, ch. 25

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Re: Whose Buddhism is Truest?

Postby ronnewmexico » Thu Jan 05, 2012 7:19 pm

In contrast to theism...where there is a strict qualification of this thing, and peoples presuppose....things have not changed or been changed over the years....historical record seems to deny that.

In any event I would say most lineages represent the teaching with nuance. But it is nuance not substantial part.
And it seems such is buddhism always the buddha presented things in such a fashion each to their own level and propensity.
So in that is it perhaps consistant.

Many many more similiarities then differences in this thing.
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Re: Whose Buddhism is Truest?

Postby Beatzen » Thu Jan 05, 2012 10:29 pm

Does it strike anyone else as odd that this is such a concern here in the west?

I imagine that in thailand people don't sit around (at least as frequently as western students do) comparing one yana to another. and so on.

If you're a peasant in burma, or if you were a villager in pre-occupied tibet, then the dharma that was taught locally was "the dharma." And it was satisfactory in that it sated the spiritual needs of the population better than no-dharma at all.

I almost think about those ancient chinese monks who might live in a remote region, during a time when access to duplications of various scriptures was rare. They might have one or two sutras, and that'd be it. But they'd study those few texts religiously, and gain much enthusiasm and profound inspiriation for practice from those few textual sources.

We're so spoiled to live in a time and place with so many variant strains accessable to us. Most sutras are a mouse-click away on google. This is a revolutionary development.
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Re: Whose Buddhism is Truest?

Postby Nicholas Weeks » Fri Jan 06, 2012 5:34 pm

Will one of you superior "winkers" deign to (not repeat, that would be tooo much) but give us a link to your previous "going over" of the article?
A bodhisattva does not become weary of evil beings nor does he commit the error of bringing forth thoughts inclined to reject them and cast them aside. Avatamsaka Sutra, ch. 25

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Re: Whose Buddhism is Truest?

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Re: Whose Buddhism is Truest?

Postby Nicholas Weeks » Sat Jan 07, 2012 4:14 am

A bodhisattva does not become weary of evil beings nor does he commit the error of bringing forth thoughts inclined to reject them and cast them aside. Avatamsaka Sutra, ch. 25


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