Are sutra's to be taken literally?

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Re: Are sutra's to be taken literaly?

Postby kirtu » Thu Dec 29, 2011 12:19 am

Then secondly, sutra's as inspirational: sutra's like the can inspire people directly. The Vairocana convocation at the beginning of the sutra has always spoken directly to me since I first read it somewhere as a teenager (as just like when Bill Gates said in an interview his experience with tests in school was generally that they had been written for him, in the same sense sutras that speak to us directly are like that - it's as if they have been written for us personally). The second part however confused me for a long time as the precepts there seems too difficult to follow.

Many sutra's are like that for different people. Of course we need a teacher to help us and guide our understanding but when we encounter these sutras they give rise to a positive, virtuous experience in out minds already and help us on our spiritual path.

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Re: Are sutra's to be taken literaly?

Postby Indrajala » Thu Dec 29, 2011 7:49 am

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Postby LastLegend » Thu Dec 29, 2011 4:54 pm

NAMO AMITABHA
NAM MO A DI DA PHAT (VIETNAMESE)
NAMO AMITUOFO (CHINESE)

Bodhidharma [my translation]
―I come to the East to transmit this clear knowing mind without constructing any dharma―

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Re: Are sutra's to be taken literaly?

Postby Dave The Seeker » Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:11 pm

I am not very experienced with reading and practicing the Sutra's, but I have read The Buddha said "it's not the words, but the meaning".
As each of us is an individual with different perspectives, and levels of experience and knowledge, wouldn't this be the proper answer to the OP:
To do the best of our ability, in the position we are at, to understand the meanings?

Not meant to "rile" any feathers of the much more knowledgeable than myself.

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NAMO AMITABHA
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Bodhidharma [my translation]
―I come to the East to transmit this clear knowing mind without constructing any dharma―

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Postby Grigoris » Sat Dec 31, 2011 4:52 pm

"My religion is not deceiving myself."
Jetsun Milarepa 1052-1135 CE

"Butchers, prostitutes, those guilty of the five most heinous crimes, outcasts, the underprivileged: all are utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss."
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Nice
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Postby DGA » Sun Jan 01, 2012 3:15 pm

Here's a bit more on teaching and practicing in prisons.

http://www.snowcrest.net/chagdud/main/prison.htm


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