kirtu wrote: Adamantine wrote:
The western Buddhists I know respect sublime persons and they do beleive in teachers.
That is because you don't hang with the right crowds, I'd say...
Actually I don't know any western Buddhists who have been practicing a while who don't respect sublime persons and don't believe in their teachers.
Well I've seen plenty that develop negative views
and distance themselves from their own Vajra Masters
for no compelling reason at all... This is a recurring theme
showing how casually they view samaya, and how little true devotion
was ever there. These people all look like perfect devotees until
that time comes. It's easy to play a role. And that's just the Vajrayana Buddhists
I'm thinking of. (As N pointed out, the interviewer herself was one such,
who abandoned TNR as her Guru and hopped over to Zen...more important context
to understand his remarks in) There's plenty of others that are anti-guru in general,
which is what TNR was responding to: the so called American Buddhist
movement which was more or less meant to be a hierarchy-less
Buddhist consensus of American peers...